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  1. 3 points
    Alright I am on the Phillip Tomasino bandwagon. Though I don't really get why he is being ranked as low as he is, and would expect him to be gone by our pick. He has elite skating ability, very good shot and very good hands. He is a RHS C who won't turn 18 till after the draft. He was 2nd amongst all draft eligible CHL players in 5v5 points and 1st in points/60.
  2. 2 points
    If he does hit the market, I would bring him back. Solid leader, can still play, and gives us that needed edge. He would be a great fit with Valimaki on the 3rd pairing.
  3. 2 points
    You are right. We should offer sheet Sebastian Aho or Brayden Point.
  4. 2 points
    Gillies biggest problem is mental, he lacks focus. He's big and athletic, but he is too prone to weak goals and hasn't really shown any improvement since turning pro.
  5. 2 points
    I believe Bennett's game took a big leap forward this season maybe because he realized it was now or never if he wanted to remain a Flame. I don't think BP should hold him back any longer and play him at C between Tkachuk and Lindholm, line mates with similar compete level but complimenting talents. Let him take his shot at playing with the best we have for the top 6 and see what happens. We might be surprised where his production rises to playing with these two.
  6. 2 points
    I don't think Nylander should be a target for this team. We need high compete level players and that's not Nylander's game. He is very skilled, and perhaps in the right move I would consider it, but I think we need to be aiming higher with our tradeable assets.
  7. 2 points
    Callahan put up 17 points this year and 18 points the season before that. He is 34 years old and is making $5.8m next season. He isn't the same player he was, at this point he is nothing more than a 4th line energy guy with experience. I like the player, but taking on his contract makes no sense unless we get something in return, like a pick or prospect or sending Neal's contract the other way.
  8. 2 points
    I think there’s a relatively low chance Hamonic is traded. BT gave up essentially Noah Dobson for him. I can see him re-signing as early as this summer. He also brings an element to the Flames that no other D has. Brodie can be easily replaced in-house by a guy like Valimaki or Kylington. Guys like Hamonic are a needle-in-a-haystack these days It’s also written by Seravali who’s a total clown IMO
  9. 1 point
    If he was retiring, sure ..he's playing somewhere next year. Gotta be honest, I really hope he takes a pay cut and re signs..if only to watch this board light up 😎
  10. 1 point
    oh I get it , I'm not even saying he's a one-off.. he many very well go on to be a premier goalie for years, and hope he does .. good for him .Just like Murray , got his shot and took full advantage of it . I'm just saying even his own team didn't really believe in him. Just goes to show until you get them in the net at the NHL level you have no clue what you have . Mason McDonald could very well be the high prospect we thought he was when we drafted him.. but its gonna take a perfect storm to ever find that out
  11. 1 point
    https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/qa-flames-gm-brad-treliving-playoff-disappointment-off-season-plans/ Good read on Bt Feels needs to be done
  12. 1 point
    You've always had a great attitude with a steady hand, and this is no exception, so full props. Nor do I intend for...any of my posts to be popular, really. this being no exception. But, Assuming a team builds itself out from its goaltender, to defence, and then forwards: We have nothing in the way of a team-building goalie. As you mentioned. Our defence fell apart. Maybe we have the right pieces maybe we don't. But it was ineffective. Our forwards were ineffective in playoff style hockey. So, I always do actually appreciate your optimism. But, that's a 3 for 3 no-go. I just can't call that close to the right mix. It's...the opposite of the right mix. What we do have, is some valuable pieces in the wrong places. Sucks that we have to rebuild again, but it's not the end of the word and it's also inevitable. Whether we do it now or 3 years from now. Start from your goaltender. We should be looking for that now. And we need to be honest with ourselves about our development system for goalies. Get that right, and we can say we've "started" a sensible rebuild process for the first time.
  13. 1 point
    It is really fascinating how some players perform so well without being great skaters. I do remember that Chucky was skating quite well at the beginning of last year. He was surprisingly fast. I wonder if he feels as effective when he does turn on the jets. That is, can he handle the puck as well when he is going fast. Tkachuk will get bank as you said.
  14. 1 point
    With that Maata trade to Chicago the Flames may only trade Brodie to another team for Cap Space and not necessarily for cap space AND assets like draft picks. I can't wait till the draft though, I have a feeling there will be trades that day for the Flames and I can't wait to see who they draft
  15. 1 point
    Have you Watched Tkachuk play?? He is valueable on any team! I went to see a game where he had 5 points and he is even going to get better. I see the Flames offering him a contract around 8 million dollars a season, hopefully the Flames persuade him to sign for even cheaper!
  16. 1 point
    Time to step away until after the Draft and see what takes place. Maybe even get some yardwork done.
  17. 1 point
    There's a lesson to be learned from the Blues. They've been a heavyweight in the West for 5-7 years, faced lots of expectations, and couldn't get it done. Written off as "playoff chokers". They have made the big blockbuster trade to go all in- Ryan Miller... didn't work out. Moved many key pieces via trade or lost in UFA, captain Backes, Shattenkirk, who at the time was an elite point producer. Doug Armstrong did a great job building up that franchise, guys like Blais, Barbashev, Thomas, Dunn, all effective role players they drafted and developed. But they also didn't give up and make a panic trade. You keep knocking on the playoff door and eventually you can go on a run. 2 years in a row teams with playoff demons have broke through. No reason it can't be us. Keep making the playoffs and give ourselves a chance for the stars to align
  18. 1 point
    James Mirtle was on the fan today and mentioned that Florida might look to buyout Reimer or trade him. I wonder if they would trade him at 50% retained for a low pick. Reimer at $1.7m to be a 1B would be an alright option and might be better and cheaper than any goalie that will be available to us in UFA.
  19. 1 point
    I think the 3 year bridge deal is the best way to go with this contract, that should keep his cap hit down to the $7m-7.5m range. If you go max term it puts him in the $8.5m range. He isn't a great skater and with the way he plays I do wonder about how he will age. If you look at Wayne Simmonds who is a fairly comparable player, he is only 30 years old and he is starting to decline rapidly. I would just be weary of going max term, lots can happen in 8 years.
  20. 1 point
    Id say thats a very heavy overpay. Id love to have Virtanen , but at the same time , he's another Bennett.. high expectations not yet fulfilled and now its been long enough you wonder what he really is TJ should be getting you a first , or at very least a solid offensively contributing forward I've noticed , as many have , we tend to seriously devalue our own players Take Brodie.. he seriously is the same player he has been for years, a top 4 puck moving dman, hes never been a Defensive rock, but he does what he does best. He hasn't gotten worse, he has simply just been passed on the depth chart by other players.. hence, trade him for better value .. but just because he has been passed on our team , other teams have a top 4 spot ready for him Stone is a great example , he is the same D-man he was when we acquired him . When we got him he was a solid #4 on this team.. but he has been pushed way down the depth chart to where he is probably at least #7.. he hasn't regressed , hes been surpassed . but we see him as a buyout candidate nobody will want -- in Edmonton for example he would be automatically top 4 and worth every penny of his contract . Even Toronto would fit him .Some team should be more than willing to use him at his current value because he will upgrade their current top 4 Kulak went to Mtl and earned a regular spot .. did he get suddenly better ? No . they just didnt have the D pipeline we do .. he was what he was, but here he would still be a 6-7 When you deal from strength , we forget we have the ability to throw out things that other teams will covet .. these players aren't garbage, they just aren't good enough to play for Calgary anymore
  21. 1 point
    I think my biggest argument has always been , what team does? Unless you get lucky enough to park a kid behind a stud workhorse like Rinne or King Henry, the development just isn't there to have the patience to graduate them Granted , we messed up not grooming a true heir apparent when Kipper was here .. San jose and anaheim used to have a pipeline but where they scoutred is no longer a secret .. same as how Calgary used to find those unknown College studs back in the day Ive said for a long time , we need to break ground again .. we were the first NHL team to employ a full time goalie coach .. now there needs to be a full time goaltending department - dedicated goalie scouts , dedicated goalie camps , make some deals with european teams to park a goalie there if you get so many you cant spread them around , but with 100% focus on finding and developing goalies our way until this happens it will always be a crapshoot..its a longer investment just to find out years later if they are good enough
  22. 1 point
    So here's one and fully expect some blow back with this suggestion. Vancouver: T.J. Brodie Calgary: Jake Virtanen 2019 40th overall Friedman said on the latest 31 Thoughts podcast that Vancouver is looking to retool their defense and are on of the busier teams in terms of looking to improve. Brodie helps their defense that isn't overly mobile. Virtanen is a guy that might need a change of scenery, but he fits what we need, he is big, he has grit, he can skate and shoot. We also get a 2nd round pick in this draft, which we might be able to package with the 26th pick to move up in the draft or just keep it and add another high end piece to cupboards. The biggest thing here is we drop some needed cap space. Friedman also stated in his podcast that teams are preparing like the cap in only going to be in the range of $81-82m as opposed to the rumoured $83m. If the players don't use their escalator than the cap won't go to $83m. So cap space is going to be king here. Virtanen also could fill Frolik's spot and allow for us to trade him for picks.
  23. 1 point
    Kypreos aid on Tim & Sid that Nashville is interested in Neal. I think that Turris would be an upgrade on Jankowski on the 3rd line. So I can see there being a fit. It also sounds like Nashville really wants to make a big push for Duchene, so clearing out Turris makes sense for them. Turris is a much better skater than Neal so I can see him being more effective for longer. The problem is I think Nashville wants to clear salary so Turris for Neal only clears $250K. So I am guessing that Nashville is either hoping Calgary will eat salary or take another contract or that another team offers a better deal.
  24. 1 point
    Hammer is a team first guy, 100% sacrifice and 100% effort every night which is why he should stay. Plus even though theres no NMC in his contract I don't think he's too eager to move back out east.
  25. 1 point
    Trading Johnny for Hall would be a disaster, I really don't get why it keeps coming up. I understand that Johnny and Hall have comparable skill sets, but Hall is on an expiring contract and will command 8 or 9m + in a year's time, plus he could just walk away at that point. Oh, and he's only played more than 70 games 4 times out of 8 seasons (excluding the lockout), and is coming off an extremely shortened season as well. 50/50 chance he misses significant time during the season. Johnny has 2 more years than Hall at a bargain price. If we were looking to sign him today, his contract would start at 10M most likely. So if we were to Trade Johnny, we better be getting: a) An equal talent at comparable contract length and cost (not sure that exists at the moment, Barkov is probably closest) b) A better or younger talent that we can control for longer but the contract price is higher (Marner for example) c) A top level young player coming into his own soon + a high draft pick (Nico Hirschier + 1st) I get that these trades are unlikely, but that's kind of the point. If you can't get something like I have suggested here, then you hang on to him.
  26. 1 point
    As I said, I don't necessarily suggest trading him. I do not consider it to be crazy to consider the option of trading him, just not the direction most people would go. If trading him for a player who is similar in level of play, while different stylistically would be a reasonable option. Trading him for a player of equal skill but different style who costs less, is signed long term and gets you an added draft pick would be a win and should not be shrugged off. I would happily trade Gaudreau for Mackinnon who is bigger, younger, more relentless on the puck, lower cap hit, 2 years younger and signed for an extra season. If the Avs would throw in a draft pick on top of that, you are looking at a no brainer trade. If you consider that Johnny has a history of getting shut down offensively when teams take away his space, while Mackinnon drives the play and will play more physical (just look at our playoff series), he is a RH shot C, then you you cannot say that trading Johnny is crazy. While it is 99% unlikely that Colorado would consider this trade, You can't deny that while maybe not an upgrade himself, MacKinnon was better in goals, equal in points, better in playoffs, more physical, bigger, cheaper, younger and signed longer then he is a least equal and may actually be better suited for the Flames and how they want to play. Straight up I would make that trade, if Colorado xadd a prospect, another piece or a draft pick and you almost have to make that trade. I don't know anyone who wouldn't take McDavid or Kucherov straight up for Johnny. Nobody is suggesting moving Johnny for picks, simply suggesting that Johnny COULD be moved for the right trade that helps the team now and in the future. Again, just pointing out that trading Johnny may not be a popular notion, but it is not crazy either if you get the right return.
  27. 1 point
    But, who cares, if we were nearly last in that for the playoffs? And a pattern has formed with JH? I honestly don't know why we see this as an achievement, to me it is a giant problem.
  28. 1 point
    Tomasino, Lavoie and Hoglander are really the only guys I really like at 26 and there is a good chance that they are gone by then. Kaliyev has good skill but the desire and compete is lacking. Leason is a late 2nd rounder IMO Suzuki isn't a guy I would take in the 1st round and I see a big drop off from Krebs to him. Thomson also is a 2nd rounder IMO Seider is tough to get a read on, I have seen him listed in the teens and in the 20's, he has good size and good skating ability, not sure how much offense is there. At the end of the day I think it's a moot point because I don't think we have what Philly wants or we don't want to move what what Philly wants.
  29. 1 point
    How about a inhouse lineup with no trades. Gaudreau, Lindholm, Tkachuk Monahan, Backlund, Ryan Mangiapane, Bennett, Neal Dube, Jankowski, Hathaway Rychel , Lazar, Czarnik (Lazar on a two way) Girodano, Andersson Hanifin, Hamonic Valimaki, Brodie Kylington Rittich, McElhinney (UFA) Would this team be good enough to win a SC ?
  30. 1 point
    I agree and it's hard to pick out the Price's. I'd be more willing to take a gamble on Knight if we had more picks this year and weren't coming off of 2 previous years with 1 pick in the first 2 rounds. I do think a goalie should be taken some point this draft if things work out.
  31. 1 point
    I'd do that trade, but I don't see why NJ does that trade. Palmieri is a 25 goal scorer on a team with no offense, and is on a value contract. He has more value than Brodie in my opinion. Zacha = Jankowski more or less, but he is younger with more upside. Gilles is close to being a bust now, and carries little value. However this might be a starting point. Maybe Brodie + Frolik + Janko would move the needle.
  32. 1 point
    Back in the day if A player had some size and weight and a docile personality they still got bloody and bruised. Now, a days lol the players are situated and given roles suited to their personalities. Mony has size Janks has size but both are scared as hell to take a beating. Grey beard Ryan is a smaller guy and took a beating. Probably why BP loves him.
  33. 1 point
    I would do Brodie, Jankowski, Gillies for Palmieri and Zacha. I like Palmieri and think he would be a good fit here.
  34. 1 point
    You're right, this is MUCH worse. We drained the pipeline trying to win a cup with Iggy. Which was just, soooo, unbelievably shortsighted. I expect that from the general population but not from management. Now, we're draining the pipeline to stay competitive with Gio in the regular season with a team we already know has no hope in the playoffs. Look through this forum, people have been saying "Our best chance to win a SC is in the next 3 IMO" since the forum was created, literally. Please we need to stop this. You should have a good chance to win Every year. We only see these windows because we keep putting ourselves behind the 8-ball draining our pipeline for 1-in-a-million chances. I'll tell you right now management didn't keep Iggy for the cup. They can do math. I think. They kept him for the regular season ticket sales. And you can better believe that's why they'll want to keep Gio. I'm not here for the regular season ticket sales. And I plan on being here a lot longer than 2-3 years. So I'd love to see us stop kicking ourselves.
  35. 1 point
    Exactly. If someone can't see last season as a good start to better things then I'm not sure they ever will.
  36. 1 point
    Maybe, but I wouldn't do that deal. I don't think I would do Backlund straight across for Kessel. Nothing against Kessel, I just think we are too thin at center to be trading Backlund for a winger.
  37. 1 point
    I don't feel what they achieved this season was "winning little things". You seem to want to win a SC but want to trade away the very experienced players we likely need in order to accomplish that feat.
  38. 1 point
    Useless conversation until you see the finalized roster. This team has been building towards being better each and every year so I don't see BT and now BP in his 2nd season not adding to this year's success.
  39. 1 point
    I was watching SportsNet this morning and they had a special section on the 1989 team with some of the team players saying they had a special group and thought they should have won 4 or 5 SCs but managed just 1. First and foremost you need a group of players that play for each other which means no tag-a-longs, everyone has to give max efforts each game out. I look back at that 1989 team and see talent but also a very high compete level and desire to win. Sometimes a team like this year's has to lose in order to gain those qualities together as a team.
  40. 1 point
    Based on what? This whole "1 good year = next year bad" is BS. Sure it may seem like that historically but none of those teams from that period were as dominant as last years. Don't forget those years were filled with spare parts from other teams because of the organizations horrendous scouting, questionable management, and carousel coaching. How many times was the team poor enough to miss the playoffs but good enough to miss picking a potential franchise player? Sure there are improvements still to be made but to think that the same core, even with setbacks and injuries won't make the playoffs seems overly pessimistic.
  41. 1 point
    Any interest in Colin Miller from Vegas? I keep seeing his name out there in the rumour mill. He is a good skating RHS D with a bomb of a shot. He can play on the 2nd pair or bottom pairing. He is signed at $3.88m for 3 more years. If we move Brodie or Hamonic and buy out Stone, Miller would fill in the gaps quite nicely.
  42. 1 point
    Hopefully Nygard chooses us, not that it’s the end of the world... remember how excited we al got over Foo choosing us over the Oilers?
  43. 1 point
    That was one component of many, really none of the lines scored. Name the line, same thing. But that wasn't even our biggest problem, that goes back to what you said about Gio, and generally our defence. We were smoked on defence. The only thing I Can't think of to blame is goaltending, and goaltending also was not cup-worthy. Just, we were given good enough goaltending to win the series and still did not. robrob74 said it best: EVERYONE. At the same time though, some were worse than others. Bottom line, I don't think James Neal is going to solve the problem we have, no matter what you do with him. Yes, it's a worthy discussion topic. As are Most other players on our team right now. Many of which have high trade value. I'm just seeing the buy high, sell low mentality, potentially, and making a note on it.
  44. 1 point
    Eberle is slowing down skating wise, I don't think he will be able to keep up with the play in the very near future. Eberle is a prime candidate to be a player like Neal where his skating and skills deteriorate so drastically that he can not compete at an NHL level, I mean he already doesn't compete at an NHL level.
  45. 1 point
    I get that Neal had some opportunity with 13 and 23, but IMO nowhere near enough. History has proven that it doesn't really matter who's playing with Gaudreau and Monahan, that line still scores... Hudler, Colborne, Ferland, Lindholm. We are stuck with Neal so we may as well do our best to make it work. You'd think Neal would work his tail off this summer to ensure he bounces back. My opinion is since you're stuck with him, you may as well try to make it work. I'd give him the start of the next season on the top line, provided he has a decent training camp. 7-10 games to start the season, if he is a non-factor then you scratch him, if he is then maybe your 5.75 isn't a complete waste. Either way putting him with players like 77, 93, 27 etc isn't going to get more than 19 points next season out of Neal
  46. 1 point
    That is odd and interesting at the same time. I would have to review the stats over the year to be sure, but it feels like you are correct. We were getting the points and finding ways to win in the regular season. As such, I assumed that, if healthy, we would really gel in the playoffs. It just never seemed like all 4 lines were capable of performing consistently. That is easy to say as a fan. I am sure that the players would say they worked hard all year long and some games you are rewarded, while you are hooped in others. We lacked consistency in '17/'18 in terms of winning and losing. This last year, it seemed like lines just turned on and off.
  47. 1 point
    Yup. Another option is of course not taking on the ridiculous contracts to begin with. But I'm sure BT will do it again this summer and we'll all be impressed. He needs one or two more totally ridiculous signings before he's completely screwed us over.
  48. 1 point
    Our team sure does a lot of buyouts. I get teams do it but we are perpetually having buyout money against the cap. How many any of us would give Stone his contract? Maybe one of us?
  49. 1 point
    Not a fan. I think he's a very junior-esque player, he is a talented goal scorer with great hands but his skating isn't that close to elite, his spacing defensively is off, and his problems are exacerbated by his lack of all-around effort (a.k.a. only gives a crap in the offensive zone). To put it mildly, he's a bit of a *****. Insert whatever 5 letter swear you like. Kids like that can turn it around in theory, but from my experience those types of prospects don't ever turn around for you. Kids who don't already have a heart and balls of steel need a kick in the Hash Rate to get it, and usually that ends up being a trade after a few years of struggling. He's a perfectly normal and even likable guy otherwise, but by the time players like that turn into quality assets they've already moved to another team and you don't even see the benefit. Kaliyev isn't the worst in this draft by any stretch in that regard but even in a world where draft prospects who have warts or problems with consistent effort tend to have that ignored in favor of skills among the public eye, Kaliyev is noticeably not an energetic player. Things like that are innate traits and habits aren't easy to get rid of, and a guy who is willing to bail on a puck battle often finds it a slippery slope because the moment you are OK with losing once, what's the difference in losing another? What's the difference between this corner scrum and the last one? I could be wrong, but I'll take a kid with fire to go along with the skill, because it's not like his level of talent is so high I'd live with the rest of his game. Give me the kid who would rather die than quit on this play, every play. To be honest, that's partly why I'm not a huge fan of Suzuki either. You don't have to be big or strong to be a pain in the Hash Rate to play against, so guys who play a perimeter game or expect others to do the work are huge pet peeves with me. I don't ask for much but you better be willing to try and do everything you ask of your linemates yourself or else you're a selfish player.
  50. 1 point
    The rebuild went fine. Yeah you didn’t get any lotto luck, but Gaudreau goes 2nd overall in a 2011 re-draft and you got him in the 4th round. Tkachuk likely goes at worst 3rd in a 16 re-draft and you got him at 6 and your 2 biggest arch rivals passed on him. Right there you have essentially 2 lotto picks I don’t see how Monahan was incorrectly developed. He scored 22 goals as a rookie without Johnny on a team that was complete garbage. I think he’s a really goodsupporting player that you can pencil in for 25-35 goals a season and 65-75 points. His skating is what will always hold him back though.
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