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Everything posted by ifiwaschucknorris

  1. Like I said I'm not thrilled with Feaster and King but the reason I rated them higher is that they have a better track record of actively trying to improve the roster than Lowe and his we will be better as everyone is a year older philosophy. TBH neither is ideal but I see the Flames as the better of the two. I'm not saying the players are causing the losing but anyone in the work world knows that if you stay in a bad situation or work environment you tend to get numb to it. It's hard to snap yourself out of it and change things around. The players are numb to losing and okay with it because they have been losing so long. It's actually been proven that if you visualize your dreams and post pictures of your dream house and stuff you are less likely to achieve it as you get satisfaction from the visualization and it demotivated you. I think kind of the same thing is going on with the Oil right now. Honestly I forgot Gagner. But Gags is an RFA next year so will the Oil be willing to pay what he wants? The other thing is I honestly don't see any way that Hemsky and Gagner net you what you need. If Gagner gets signed and puts up another good season next year and Hemsky stays healthy maybe but even still an established 1 or 1a Dman will cost you. The other, other thing is I just don't buy that these kids can win together. They don't know how to. Krueger is fine but this is about the respect factor. Like I said the Oil look pretty good on paper. My suggestions are made to shake up what's between there ears. They need a Wake up call and it has to be by trading a couple of the young core for SIGNIFICANT return, signing an established coach, and bringing in a solid FA from a winning culture.
  2. Not going to comment on most of this as we can all get defensive and have our rosé coloured glasses on when talking about our teams. First it was me who had the bet going with Connor. Didn't see us both this far down the standings but...I'm still winning Realistically I think the Flames have an excellent chance to rebound and make the playoffs within two years whereas I see the Oil struggling. Consider this: 1. Oilers have Kevin Lowe and Craig Mactavish. Flames have Feaster and Ken King. Although I'm not in love with our management I would have to say the advantage would go to the Flames as they have shown more initiative and willingness to actively improve the team and seem less okay with failure. Also Feaster didn't win cups as a player soooooo.... 2. Oilers forwards have exceptional skill in the top six but not a lot beyond that. I don't see them as a deep core and what's worse is that they seem much more emotionally fragile than the Flames. They seem as if they fold easily and almost seem resigned to losing. I don't know if there is an issue in the locker room or whether it goes deeper into there psyches but you can't lose that badly for that long without it leaving scars. Flames get the advantage in depth and resiliency. Oilers get the nod in top end skill and ability. 3. Oilers D is strong on the puck in the offensive zone but seems prone to turnovers in the defensive end. They also seem as if they are unable to read plays defensively at times and run around a lot. Worse the forwards seem to have little to no idea on how to support the D. TBH I see these same problems with the Flames and the Oil D have a little better offensive skill so advantage Oilers. 4. Oilers goaltending going forward is looking okay. Dubnyk probably won't be a Vezina candidate any time but neither will he sink the team. Beyond Dubnyk it's not looking solid but if he can give 60 quality starts a year it won't have to. Flames goaltending is a complete unknown at this point with several goaltending prospects in the system. If one of those turns into a goalie with starter quality we will have done alright. Advantage Oilers. On paper it would seem the Oilers have all the tools necessary to be competitive and the talking heads on TV are in love with them but to me this core is fragmented and too addicted to there potential without being required to fulfill it. I also don't see the current management group being able/willing to change that. For these reasons I think the flames will have a faster rebuild than the Oil despite there head start. To make the Oil better i would: Trade two of RNH, Yakupov, Hall, Hemsky, Eberle for a very good 25-30 year old 2 way defender from a winning culture and a solid 3rd liner akin to a Troy Brouwer type or a Brandon Prust. Yandle, JBouw, or Johnson would be good. Plus something else depending on who's traded. Hire a coach like Ruff or Tippett(if available). Someone with a pedigree and years of experience who can teach the kids how to play. Dip into the free agent market (overpay since FAs don't like Edmonton) for a good 2 way C that can be good on the second line. A Joe Pavelski, Ryan Kesler type. Unfortunately I don't see this management group willing to go this far and so I see several years of struggle ahead of them.
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  4. Blah, blah, blah...and right after Kehatch said to play nice. There are enough problems with the Oilers that we can make fun of without speculating on an individuals posters history or habits. My take is: The Oilers have improved this season, HOWEVER, when you are worst in the league for the last three years there is nowhere to go but up. so the strides taken, while admittedly an improvement, are far from impressive. The Oilers likely won't make the playoffs this year. Proof: The Oilers have to play .700 hockey the rest of the way. 7 of there last 10 are against teams that are currently in a playoff position. When playing those teams the Oil are 5-9-5 so far this year and will have to go at LEAST .500 while sweeping the 3 against teams out of the playoffs. Doable? Yes. Likely? No. The future: With the cap lowering next year plus the number of rfas due BIG raises over the next three years I think the window for this edition of the Oilers rebuild to win is 2 years. You won't be able to sign everyone of the big names and someone (probably 2) will need to go. The other thing is that there will not be a lot of cap space for the Oil to make additions to the roster next year for a playoff push. Last but not least...these guys already have 2-3+ seasons under there belt. The argument that they will be better next year because they are a year older and more experienced is starting to wear thin. All another year brings now is one year closer to Cap Jail. That being said...they are definitely better than the Flames right now.
  5. There is now way around it. We will likely have to sign an nhl goalie in the offseason at least one who can share time with MacD. I would also like to see Taylor get some time.
  6. I am a 6', 185lb roofer who is crying. The Flames are less of my favourite team today than yesterday.

  7. Happy birthday Tiny Ninja! Flames AoP Salutes you!!!

    1. Flyerfan52


      Happy Birthday t-man.

  8. Happy Birthday Annie...one of the best trolls to ever grace this board. Take notes newcomers.

    1. Anie8706


      flattery gets you everywhere ;)

  9. Arnott failed the physical in NY didnt he? Might not be any different in Edmonton. It may only be a month that Horcoff is out but a month is a third of the season right now. Any injuries to anyone are magnified right now.
  10. Sig bet on whether the Flames or Oilers finish higher in the standings at the end of the season. Does anyone else feel like most of the animosity between the Flames and Oil is between the fans. I want both teams to make the playoffs so the teams can get back to some good old fashioned hate. Lets see a rivalry like Van and Chicago again!
  11. Yes Connor I will take your sig bet. Sorry just got back. On topic. oilers Devan Dubnyk has been good so far...I don't worry about him in the near future. Top 6 are probably among the best in the league overall. Problems I see are a below average bottom 6 and a bottom half of the league d core. Took me 15 minutes to type this Don't post tired people. It's bad.
  12. Back from up north. Thank you Flames for putting in the effort so far this year and playing like we knew you could.

  13. I think it will be the Flames. They keep hovering around the playoff bubble and I believe they are better this year than last. Edmonton is better too but they have further to move up the ladder. I will take your bet and I pick the Flames. PM with the details and I'll get back to you after work.
  14. Possibly. I didn't follow the Oil enough to know if Hemsky and Whitney were playing with injuries. I believe Hemsky played 60ish games and Whitney 51. I did take those totals into account in the goal projections and I think a 20 goal pace(full season) for Nail Yakupov is fair but we will see. TBH though banking on both Hemsky and Whitney to have injury free seasons is kind of a long shot with their history isn't it? P.S. It's nice to have discussions about our favorite teams without things degenerating to name calling isn't it?
  15. I put in the numbers beside your totals extrapolating 48 games from last years stats. Does Krueger's style allow for an open playing style? From what I understand about him he is very much a defence first guy. Honest question as I never watched the Swiss games very much. The other thing Connor is that to get the significant statistical increases in GAA you almost HAVE to take a hit in your Goals For. Since the returning cast is nearly identical to last year asking for massive improvement in both areas seems like too much. I'm not arguing that the Oil will take a few strides forward. They might even be in the playoff hunt until the last few games of the season. This team still has too many holes however. I also think Krueger is the main component of this years success if any.
  16. Numbers that follow are based on an 82 game season. My apologies it's true. If you assume the Oilers can lower their Shots against per game to an even 30(they would move from 19th to 14th according to last years total) AND assume they raise their save percentage to .916 then you will see them move from 23rd to 11th in GAA at 2.52. Don't know if you noticed also that last year the Oil averaged scoring exactly 2.52 goals per game. This would give you a goal differential of 0. Assuming that you already moved up 5 spots in shots against AND lowered your GAA from one of the worst in the league to just outside the top ten (these are easier said than done by the way otherwise you would see more teams do it) you would still be left lacking 10 goals to achieve the magic number of a +10 goal differential. Where are these 10 additional goals coming from? They would have to increase there goals/game to 2.64 which would have been good for 15th last year instead of 20th. In summary, I agree that if Edmonton can be 15th in goals per game and 11th in goals against this year they should be able to achieve a plus 10 goal differential and squeak into the playoffs. However it seems like this is an awful lot of improvement in one season in both goals against and goals for. TBH trying to fit in a brand new Yakupov and a brand new Schultz into not only the NHL but a very compressed schedule and achieve these team improvements? I don't see it. Oil will probably finish around 10th-13th
  17. 30 shots/game is 2460 shots over an 82 game season. I used the actual total of 2506. The 46 extra shots is inconsequential and does not explain your numbers. To reach the numbers you were using in your original calculation then the Oilers would be surrendering 23 goals on those additional 46 shots. Your math was still wrong. Oilers offence was 20th last year and GAA was 23rd. It's not save percentage per say. The Oilers are not necessarily going to be great offensively(they weren't last year). To me the biggest difference maker on the whole team this year will be Krueger. If he can get the team to play a responsible game then they have a shot at the playoffs, if they play like they did last year they are destined for a high pick again. Not pointing out the math errors to be an chicken tikka masala. Just trying to point out that an increase in save percentage alone (unless Dubnyk has a Vezina caliber season) will not help you. It's a much bigger problem than that.
  18. Your math is flawed The Oilers had 2506 shots against last year. Assuming the .004 difference in sv% the number is actually 9.7 goals less over an 82 game season. The Oils would still have a -17 goal differential not +6. To get to the numbers you want the Oilers goalies would have to put up a sv% of .930 to put up the goal differential that you say would have been enough to squeek into the playoffs. Goalis who had a .930 last year Bryan Elliott Cory Schneider Mike Smith Hendricks Lundqvist Teams that had a .930 last year St.Louis Blues So if you buy the argument of goal differential(which I don't) being the most important, you will have to have the best sv% in the league between your goalies just to squeak in. To me the problem is about way more then just save percentage.
  19. I'm curious as to how you come by that number? Also Dubnyk and Khabi last year were a combined .912 and they finished last. Would the extra .004 really make that much difference? http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20122ALLGAGALL&viewName=summary&sort=savePercentage&pg=2
  20. Dear Mr. Bettman and Mr. Fehr...please let us know which kindergarten you attended so I can avoid sending my kids there. They obviously skipped the modules Sharing, and Communicating and spent too much time on Naptime, Recess, and Self-esteem.

  21. The point totals aren't a ridiculous hurdle to overcome. The biggest difference to me is that the Heat seem to play a team game and the Barons are fragmented. The NHL guys play well together and the AHL guys play well together but it is almost like 2 different teams out there. It seems as if the players from the big club are treating there stint in the A as practice for the NHL rather than trying to help the team win.
  22. I actually like Connorfuturegm's posts. He rarely loses his temper and he has mostly well reasoned (though admittedly biased but who of us isn't) arguments. That being said I believe in your initial analysis there are a few decided flaws in your reasoning.
  23. Both the Flames and the Oilers have been nothing but disappointing for fans for the last few years. Flames fans have ridden the rollercoaster of the Playoff chase only to fall a few points short. Oilers fans have been force fed a steady diet of hopes and dreams only to see there team consistently tank to the bottom of the standings. Bottom line is both our teams have failed us. Are the Oilers Stanley Cup contenders? No. Absolutely not. Do they hav a legitimate opportunity to make the playoffs? Again, no probably not. The best the Oilers can REASONABLY hope for is to make significant strides by finishing in the 9-11 range and showing the FA's next year and there fans that they are moving in the right direction. They are dangerously close to becoming the new Islanders and they have to start making strides soon. IMHO anything more than 9th would require so many things going right for the Oil and the odds of Dubnyk having a career year+the kids all staying healthy+the d magically playing way above there heads+the coaching coming together all in one season is kind of like expecting a cba resolution before Sept.15th. Possible but no one would put money on it without great odds and maybe a decent point spread. I drink the Flames koolaid and so despite their lack of any proven #1 or 2 centers and there recent history of coming up just short of the playoffs I BELIEVE the Flames will win the Cup in 2012. My belief doesn't mean that I expect them too. I can acknowledge the aging core, the lack of centers, and the questions regarding the new coaching style as significant hurdles for the team to overcome but my heart doesn't listen to my head and belief is blind. I can acknowledge that a reasonable expectation for this Flames season is 9-12. How many Oilers fans can be honest enough to admit the reality of their team not being likely to make the playoffs? TLDR Don't forget the Oilers have to leapfrog 6 teams to make the Playoffs. Did 6 teams get worse?
  24. Just read an article that the Oilpatch is hurting for workers. Why then can I not get a job and they keep telling me I'm "overqualified"?

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    2. TrippinVdUb


      Flint ebergy has been calling me like crazy the last 2 weeks, maybe check them out!

    3. ifiwaschucknorris


      Thanks for the tips guys. The wife is really riding me about this :(

    4. The_People1


      chuck norris doesn't need money

  25. Hahahahahahaha...where's the roflcopter when you need it.