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      Insults/Name-calling will not be tolerated   11/19/2016

      It's great to see the boys earning their way into the playoffs this season (barring a Colorado-would-be-proud collapse).  What a night-and-day difference from way back in November.   With the playoffs, we typically see more traffic/visitors on the site, usually from the opposing team's fanbase (especially from the Oilers).  This is just a reminder that stating your opinion is fine (it's exactly what these forums are for), and friendly, good-natured ribbing is OK, however, name-calling and insults will still be a major no-no and cause for the Banhammer to warm up.  This applies to all new guests and visitors as well: you're more than welcome to join the party, but civility is house rule around here.   All insults/name-calling will be met with a zero-tolerance approach, regardless if you are a new person to the forums, or have been around since these forums began.   First-offenses will be met with a moderator-needs-to-approve-your-post for 3 days Second offenses will be met with a week-long suspension Third offenses will result in a perma-ban   If you have any questions regarding this policy, or would like to voice your concern about it, you are absolutely free to contact me directly.   We all love this team, and this game.  Let's all hop on the Bandwagon, enjoy a few beverages, and ride this wave of excitement as far as we can.   --  Kulstad

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  1. The long response was necessary to try and address the list of points you made when you managed to shift away from the two points I had responded to in the first place, that I think there was sub par goaltending at times, and some questionable coaching decisions at times... and yes, I did in fact address where you were insinuating that I said things that I had not... I'll give you some clues, and then you can go read it again... Look where I said "Go ahead and try and show me where I gave him the blind support you claim, because I didn't...", "Who said they did?..." and "Where did I post about"...
  2. Wow jj, I make a post with two simple examples based on fact to answer your question and try to inject some humor, and for some reason you once again change the subject of that simple little post and try and twist it so it fits the way you see things while trying to drag me into the muck where you make statements unrelated to what I said... But I have a few minute while I work on a coffee, so I will try and make some sense of what you posted... As for Gully, he has done a lot of good for the team, and he has made some mistakes... I look at it as part of his learning curve as a newbie head coach in the league... I have voiced criticism of a number of these mistakes like when he kept Chiasson on the top line and a good number of other lineup decisions, or kept using predictable strategies that failed, on several occasions... Go ahead and try and show me where I gave him the blind support you claim, because I didn't... I gave both goalies support when they earned it, and criticism when they deserved it... No more, no less... Elliott played 49 games and Johnson 33... Neither goalie was overplayed... A good goalie wants to play and not sit on the bench, ask one... There were a lot of people that didn't expect the Flames to even make the playoffs at this stage of the rebuild... You try make it sound like it would be better if they tanked at the end of the season to avoid the playoffs... The lack of a higher number of goals for can be attributed both to players that failed to put the puck in the net, and coaching that at times could have provided better opportunities to do so... The puck, when it got behind him when it shouldn't have... Same for Johnson... Gillies and Rittich are getting there, and could be close to making the next step... Who said they did?... But when they happen, they can sure come in handy, because they can plant seeds of doubt in the heads of the other team... The soft goals however, they can get into the head of the goalie, and the rest of the team... The odd one can and will happen, but when it happens too often, it is a game killer... Where did I post about Gaudreau having made these contributions in the playoffs?... I didn't... Nor did I in the regular season for that matter... He did ok, but not great... He also had a broken finger, which no doubt was a factor, but we need to see better from him... I was critical of the defence several times this season, including Giordano... I have zero interest in getting dragged any further into one of your long drawn out debates where you bounce around the subject like a ping pong ball, but maybe another time you can try and avoid attempting to make it look like I said things that I didn't...
  3. Sure... One where we have a goalie that doesn't develop a habit of having nuclear meltdowns, and one where a coach does not make critical mistakes that are obvious even to some of the posters here...
  4. They both had stretches where the played very well... They both also had epic meltdowns... Oddly enough, they both balanced out at a .910 SV% for the regular season this time around, 2.55 GAA for Elliott, and 2.59 GAA for Johnson... and that can only be described as mediocre at best... A big part of the problem with how they arrived at their numbers this season was in the inconsistency of performance, highs where they both played shut the door hockey, and other games where both barn doors opened wide... A huge red flag was that the bad games seemed to come in bunches too often, not just having an off game and then getting back into the zone... That is true, considering they both have had a couple of lousy seasons previously...
  5. Don't think it would fly even if they tried, Wideman restates he had a concussion, and both Wideman and the NHLPA go after the Flames... Then there are the ramifications with it possibly affecting free agent signings, or a player waiving his NMC to be traded to the Flames, or putting the Flames on their list of teams on their list of teams they can not be traded to... It's a no win situation... The lawsuit could take a while, even just to reach a settlement... Since it's a cash grab, hopefully it ends sooner rather than later, Henderson settles, takes his ill gotten gains and disappears somewhere... Best case scenario, the refs union feels Henderson has been compensated enough, Wideman is no longer a Flame, and they quit directly associating him with the team and stop taking it out on the Flames...
  6. True enough... and part of that was an epic goaltending collapse... Some big saves but too many softies, and any team is in trouble when that happens...
  7. To try and answer why I think it is relevant to say that Anaheim was the worst possible match-up cross, it is because they are the one team that wormed their way into the Flames heads... The Ducks this season just seemed to be able to get under their skin, much more so than the other 28 teams........ They had also just won twice at the end of the regular season, and then there is the curse of the evil duck pond... But I do agree that the Flames need to reflect on the list of things that did and didn't work for them, and focus on improvement in the key areas that they need to work on... That, and lose some dead weight, and then fill some holes on the roster...
  8. I agree, he might be getting paid less than Brouwer, but he is definitely worth more... Here's an article related to Gilbertson's tweets... From: http://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1285573-versteeg-if-i-m-sitting-in-switzerland-in-september-my-agent-s-getting-fired Versteeg: 'If I'm sitting in Switzerland in September, my agent's getting fired' Kris Versteeg clearly doesn't want to play in Europe next season. "If I'm sitting in Switzerland in September, my agent is getting fired," the pending unrestricted free-agent forward quipped to reporters, according to Postmedia's Wes Gilbertson, as the Calgary Flames cleaned out their stalls Friday. Versteeg, who'll be a UFA if unsigned by July 1, is coming off his best season since 2011-12 from a goal- and point-production standpoint. He scored 15 times and chipped in 37 points in the regular season for the Flames, who were swept out of the first round of the playoffs by the Anaheim Ducks on Wednesday night. Versteeg scored in Game 3 and added three assists in the series. The 30-year-old signed a one-year deal with Calgary last October after joining the Edmonton Oilers training camp on a pro tryout. The Flames are Versteeg's seventh team in 10 NHL seasons.
  9. The Leafs haven't won a cup since 1967, and have only made the playoffs 2 times in the last 13 years... They were eliminated in the second round by the Bruins in 2012/13... The Flames have made made the playoffs 7 times in the last 13 years, including making it to the finals... Hope your having a good time in bubble land...
  10. That's just it... and the Flames ended up with the worst match-up possible in the first round...
  11. The lawsuit claims $10 mil for lost income and future earnings... From: http://scoutingtherefs.com/2014/08/4060/nhl-referee-salary/ So if we use $250K a year as the number, that's 40 years worth of his wages... and that does not take into account any compensation that he has already received or will be given through retirement benefits or insurance... It also has to be considered that he was 47 years old when it happened and the oldest linesman in the league is 52... It's ridiculous...
  12. It actually makes sense that they would do this... Wideman had become a form of 'pollution' on the Flames, so this is just another 'green tax'... But don't worry, they will use the money to hire an overpriced company from Ontario to come and figure out how to install more environmentally friendly artificial ice at the Dome...
  13. For one season that was true, with a lot of dramatic come from behind wins... Not so much the season after that... Hartley said a lot of things, including 'Always earned, never given', and even had a plaque with that motto installed over the door of the dressing room... Then he did the exact opposite... Keep in mind that the Ducks only had one more win than the Flames in the regular season... Same for the Sharks... The Oilers only had two more wins... The Hawks had the most wins in the Central Division and finished first, with four more wins than the Ducks... They just got swept in four games by the Preds... The Preds had nine less wins than the Hawks, and four less wins than the Flames... Sometimes strange things happen in the playoffs, and it can be all about match-ups, timing of who gets hot and when, and lucky bounces... The 'loser points' were a major factor with what teams made it that far... Then there is the ref factor with bad calls and non-calls... and yet again, the refs have had an influence in the outcome of the game far too often across the league both in the regular season and in the playoffs, and that should never happen... 'Stuff' happens... and we all had hoped for a better outcome, but I have no doubt in my mind that the Flames will learn from this season, and are becoming a tougher team to play against... They have shown a lot of progress this season, and at this stage of the rebuild I don't think that we can really complain too much... It took the Oilers eleven years just to get back into the playoffs...
  14. The Flames are named in the lawsuir, along with Wideman... From: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/dennis-wideman-calgary-flames-linesman-lawsuit-10-million-1.4078617 $10.2M lawsuit against Calgary Flames, Dennis Wideman filed by injured linesman Don Henderson's statement of claim says he was 'violently struck' by Wideman An NHL linesman is suing the Calgary Flames and defenceman Dennis Wideman for $10.2 million after suffering a number of injuries he alleges were caused by a hit from the player, according to a statement of claim filed at the Calgary Courts Centre. Wideman was suspended for 10 games after a hit to Don Henderson during a game against the Nashville Predators on January 27, 2016. The NHL official has not been cleared to work since he was injured and "has suffered a limitation of activities and loss of enjoyment of life," the claim says. The lawsuit claims Wideman "violently struck" Henderson from behind and that the linesman was "completely defenceless." Dennis Wideman suspended for hitting official In the game, Wideman took a hit in the second period from the Predators' Miikka Salomaki. Moments later, Wideman was skating toward the Flames' bench when he cross-checked Henderson, who had his back to the defenceman. "At the time of the incident, Wideman intentionally and deliberately struck Henderson," reads the document. The senior linesman's injuries are listed as: Head injury and concussion. Injury to the neck requiring surgery. Injuries to Henderson's back and shoulder. Pain and numbness in his right arm and hand. Injury to the right knee. Headaches. Anxiety and depression. As a result of his injuries, Henderson has needed physiotherapy, medication and psychological counselling. The injuries cost Henderson $10 million in lost income and future earnings, according to the lawsuit, which also seeks $250,000 in general and special damages. U.S. district court upholds reduction of Wideman suspension Wideman was initially suspended for 20 games for the hit, but an independent arbitrator reduced the suspension to 10 games. At the time of the hit, Henderson had officiated more than 1,200 NHL games "without ever missing a game due to injury." None of the allegations have been proven in court, and a statement of defence has not yet been filed. The Calgary Flames and Henderson's lawyers both declined to comment. Henderson did not respond to calls and an email from CBC News.
  15. Bishop was my first choice of attainable goalies last summer, and still is... Unless a reasonable trade opens up for one of the few that are even better, it's a good option... One of those two things has to happen because there is currently no goalie connected to the Flames that can be relied upon as a true starter... Darling is also a pending UFA, but just isn't a bright blip on my radar... For a backup, unless Elliott was playing hurt and we didn't hear about it, I can't see him coming back after his collapse in the last couple of games... Not saying that his first choice would be as a backup, but after his slow start to the season and then the way it ended, his value just dropped and so did the odds of him getting a contract as a starter... Either way, with a .880 SV% in the playoffs and being 32 years old, I just don't see it happening... I wouldn't do it... Johnson as a backup on a lower contract is a maybe... But again, he had a pretty epic meltdown after a good run as well... I would look for an upgrade elsewhere... Other possibilities, sure, they might cut bait and go fish in a couple of other spots for two goalies again... As much as I am not a big Marc-Andre Fleury fan, if they could get him for a very reasonable trade I would rather do that than bring either of Elliott or Johnson back... Maybe someone else better than Fleury comes available in a trade that wouldn't open a new hole, only time will tell... Hard to say at this point who might end up being a potential acquisition for a backup... But after the way both goalies had catastrophic collapses this season, they will need to minimize the risk of that happening again... Not saying it will happen, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Flames have a really close look at potentially using Gillies in the backup role next season...