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  1. Not seeing how you are going to do that under the Salary cap. Also not sure that's a deal the Flames should be clamoring to pick up.
  2. cross16

    Babcock fired

    When you think of it, this is Brendan Shanahan making one heck of an investment in Kyle Dubas. This is an organization that at one time employed Lou Lamoreillo, Mark Hunter, Brendan Shanahan, Kyle Dubas and Mike Babcock. Now down to just Shanahan and Dubas after Shanahan picked Dubas. Big bet on someone.
  3. Personally feel he is overrated and certainly not worth the price tag he is going to command nor do I see the Flames owners coming close to giving him that type of $. If Peters is not working out, to which I have no reason to believe is true, I'm not seeing bringing in the guy who mentored him for years as a very attractive option.
  4. cross16

    Babcock fired

    Only surprised because of the amount of $ left on his deal but if anyone can write that cheque it's MLSE. Lots of whispers our of Toronto it wasn't going well and with the talent they have it's never a good look when they struggle like they are. Not to mention, it's been suggested for a while that Dubas and Babcock weren't exactly on the same page.
  5. The only issues I saw on D last night were Gio misplaying the first goal (but at the same time forwards didn't exactly backcheck) and then Davison misplaying the final Avs goal at the line. I was actually pleasantly surprised with Davison and I expect the odd brain cramp like that from your 8th/9th dman.
  6. I was an advocate for Frolik for Galchenyuk but Brodie for him would give me pause. Combination of defensive depth issues combined with the fact that if this season can't turn around I like the idea of the Flames having a asset like Brodie for the deadline. Not a big fan of the idea of flipping Brodie for another pending UFA.
  7. it is actually retroactive. Not for cap purposes but for roster ones. Guess is the Flames will put him on there retroactive to the Vegas game and he'll miss the next 8 games at least.
  8. Lots of Flames stuff in Friedman's 31 thoughts, albeit none of it ground breaking. him noting about them wanting to change up Monahan's game is probably the more noteworthy one there. Some of his numbers have looked dreadful but the eye test says he looks better. Could be a work in progress type situation.
  9. Last year the Flames were 36-4-1 when scoring first . For reference, the Lightning were 39-4-3. They also had 8 Wins when trailing after 2 periods. Again for reference, the Lightning had 9. We remember comebacks because they are exciting but they often blur our memories. The Flames did not rely on comebacks last season and no where near to the level they have this season. The Flames either held the lead or were tied going into the 3rd period 50 times last season. It's 9 times so far this season.....
  10. Similar story. There is a lot to like and overall it was not a poorly played game. but again emotional engagement needs to come up and stars need to be better. Broken record but it’s that simple.
  11. Backlund wins the draw, puck there for the wingers and Tkachuk and Gaudreau just look at each other. Avs player takes it the other way. the flames top 6 this season in 1 play. Ridiculous
  12. same old flames, they just don’t handle adversity very well. When things are tough you have to create changes. Throw everything on net, hit people, win puck battles, and crash the net. For about a decade now the flames just don’t do this. Things get tough they fall back on the perimeter and just throw blind passes everywhere. super frustrating. They’ll come out of it but damn does it suck to watch.
  13. cross16

    Burn it Down?

    All fair and I know you did and what you meant. i guess what i'm getting at is i don't agree with this idea that most fans didn't want to rebuild or weren't willing to accept a few years of losing. did only a few want to do scorched earth, for sure and for me that argument is competley opinion based. there are Pros and cons to scored earth and no guarantees were are any different today (ask the Sabres). All in all I just think there was more patience fans were willing to show but then 14-15 team happened and it changed everything.
  14. cross16

    Burn it Down?

    It may be, but here is my take on it. The owners have made it clear since before Sutter got here their mandate is to be in the playoffs. They hired Feaster, by all reports. under the pretense that he not rebuild the team. When they finally ok'd a rebuild they told Feaster his mandate was to get into the playoffs the very next year. They also went out and hired Brian Burke a hockey man who is known for being impatient. Every move they make falls under 1 pretense for me, the owners want to be in the playoffs every year. Perhaps that is driven by fan research and focus groups etc, but given how tone deaf this organization has been to fans, up until recently, I don't suspect it to be the case. Be it money or a desire to win I don't know but if we are having a chicken or egg argument about the decision to start a rebuild or last through one I don't think that decision starts with the fan in mind. My personal view based on how ownership has operated.
  15. cross16

    Burn it Down?

    Actually most people did. for me as soon as they made the Phaneuf trade I advocated for a rebuild because that was the move that made it clear this organization had no chance to be anything other than below mediocre in the near future. You wanted to go 1 level further (lose games at any cost) but most fans actually did want a rebuild. When Feaster first got the job his whole PR campaign was spent arguing why the Flames were not going to rebuild and use any chance he got to put down the Oilers who were openly rebuilding at the time. Most could see the future was bleak and wanted the change but the owners fought it thinking ticket sales would plummet. But in reality the quietest and most empty I say the Dome was in those Feaster years when people wanted a rebuild but weren't getting one. IMO, fans never sent a signal they wouldn't support a rebuild. Ownership assumed that and acted they way they chose to act. I have zero reason to believe anything has changed here. Also the only way the Flames would have had a shot at McDavid would have been to keep Johnny in the AHL for his entire rookie season and send Monahan back to junior for the 13-14 season and then the AHL with Johnny the following year. "Rushing" the rebuild didn't cost them McDavid it was the arrival of Gaudreau and Monahan that pulled them out of lottery pick discussion.
  16. I like that top line. Backlund has had some ups and down this season but for the most part has been putting himself in good positions to get chances they just haven't gone in. The trouble i'm seeing with Monahan is he is not getting those chances on a consistent enough basis which limits what Johnny can do.
  17. Bit surprised this isn't Lomberg but no surprise at this move.
  18. Just a friendly reminder that the last time the Flames were in a tough spot and tried to trade their way out of it the result was the Dion Phaneuf trade. One of the top 3 worst trades this franchise has ever made. Need to be careful what you wish for when you try to trade yourself out of a problem.
  19. Yes and Hamonic is probably going to be one of the top dman on the trade market come the deadline so you need to factor in the loss of those assets too. I don't disagree with any of your logic I just think your giving up too much for little long term benefit. That's a very short term trade that i'm not in favor of right now.
  20. cross16

    Burn it Down?

    to each their own but I will never agree with this certainly not in this market and with these owners.
  21. Here is the Flames schedule from now until Christmas break Colorado @ St. Louis @ Philadelphia (11 AM) @ Pittsburgh @ Buffalo Ottawa Buffalo LA @ Colorado @ Arizona Toronto Carolina Pittsburgh Montreal @ Dallas @ Minnesota (Back to back at 3 PM) and it takes you to the half way point of the season. The game that appear to be softer are on the road where they've struggled so this is a pretty challenging schedule. This is where you are going to find out what the 19-20 Flames are made of. if this nosedive doesn't reverse and they struggle through this next quarter I don't think it will be a shakeup trade you'll be after, it will be taking a reboot. Sell off the pending UFAs, create cap space where you can, try to cash in if pepole are willing to buy high and reboot for the following season with a still pretty good core in place.
  22. cross16

    Burn it Down?

    It's not the fans you need to check on or request patience from. Aim significantly higher for that request.
  23. Hard pass if so. I don't think Barrie would sign here and even if he did the Flames shouldn't want him. i don't mind Barrie as a dman but the Flames have his type. They don't need more guys with questionable in zone decision making. So your giving all that up for Kapanen and 3/4 of a season of Barrie. That's a lot IMO.
  24. Well that sucks... could have been fun to watch him on Russia
  25. 3 key members of their core and 3 guys that Flames need. But also a sign while this is incredibly frustrating, throwing in the towel probably isn't the answer either.
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