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That’s my bad. I was actually asking this from a truly open minded standpoint. I thought I read the laws a while back, and read them as I had posted them. I was wondering from a genuinely concerned standpoint. Good to know, and it helps shed light on the situation for me personally.

I understand that that’s not the issue that’s being talked about, but you missed my point entirely. This is a perfect example of what may be disturbing about this whole mess. Because of the world we live in today, and the double standard, are we so focused on the wrong doing of Mailloux that we are missing the possible fact that an 18 year old woman had sex with an underage 17 year old guy? It doesn’t matter if it was consensual or that it’s only a 1 year age gap. It’s considered sex with an underage minor, which I believe is rape under the laws in Canada at least. Someone correct me if I’m wrong on anything. I am not arguing with if the kid should be punished. He absolutely should, and I am in the boat that he should not have been drafted this year. It was a bad move by Montreal. If we’re punishing one crime though (the photos), which we should, then we need to punish the other crime too. Edit: And I disagree with the fact that this is a “boys will be boys issue”. I have seen multiple situations where women share intimate photos with their friends, without the guys consent. It happens all of the time, both ways. It’s unfortunate, but true.

I completely agree with this post. Of course what the kid did was a terrible thing, and he should be punished for it. The rest of this post holds true as well though. For me though there is a far more disturbing, while fascinating, issue at play here. I don’t know the laws in Sweden, so this may be moot. At the time of the consensual sex in question, it is my understanding that this woman was 18 and Mailloux was 17. Does anyone know if this is true? If so, in Canada that’s considered sex with an underage minor, and a criminal act regardless if the sex is consensual. If this is true, it shows a complete double standard that is very very troubling.

I may have a different viewpoint of what the Flames should do here. I think that the only reason the Flames should trade away some of this core is if it’s good asset management. I think outside of Gaudreau and Gio, you hold on to everybody else and ride them into the basement if that’s what this core will do, until after at least next season. Hear me out. The 2021 draft will be a weird one, but if the Flames can bottom out before either the 2022 or 2023 drafts (or both), you have at least 5 players who are said to be absolute game changers. Wright, Savoie, and Lambert in 2022. Bedard and Yager in 2023. Now I’m not suggesting tanking, but if this core is going to play like this it’s not really tanking. It’s just not doing anything more to help it, with more of an eye on a refresh of the culture after those two drafts.

I am curious if anyone watched the Avs or Blues games last year, after the trade deadline? The reason I ask is because obviously the Blues won the cup, and we all know how the Avs handled us. That being said, the Avs finished to post deadline schedule 11-8 I believe, and the Blues were 12-7. Not exactly tearing it up heading down the stretch, and they both had up and down seasons, then really turned it on in the playoffs. I am not saying we are either of those teams, but I’m sure their fans weren’t planning the parade heading in to the post season. I guess my point is that this is not the same team as last year (make-up wise), so we have no idea how they are going to perform/react to the post season. I am in the same boat that I don’t view the 2nd rounder(s) as much of a crazy loss, and I am willing to give this core and be more shot in the playoffs. If they crap the bed again down the stretch or in the playoffs, then the off-season is the time to move pieces out. Admittedly it’ll suck to lose out on the pick(s) Brodie would have fetched, however I’ll personally pay that price for one more shot with him as a part of the core. You can still trade him in the off-season for a lesser pick, to a team that wants to negotiate with him before FA. Obviously not ideal in hindsight if they go nowhere, but life is all about taking those chances.

I’ll be very interested to see if any of the Oilers players or ex-players who decided to spout off about the code, and what is “right” after the Tkachuk hits/non fight, will take the time to condemn this incident like they were so happy to do in the media before. If they do not, then it sure paints them as giant hypocrites. Guys like Kevin Bieksa, Ryan Kessler and others, who had no issues with throwing their two cents out there, better be at the forefront once again.

Here’s a question that I think even Canucks fans would agree the answer is no to. Would you trade Rasmus Andersson for Sven Baertschi straight up now? It’s amazing what a few years does to change the perception of a trade. I remember it being critiqued at the time as losing a 1st round pick for a 2nd rounder, and now I would consider that flipped.

That’s a very good point. I figured it was way off.

I was thinking the same thing. What about the following trade? Brodie Frolik Jankowski 3rd round pick for Laine Beaulieu Is this an overpayment or not enough?

This logic doesn’t make sense. I think we all can agree that Neal wasn’t going to play top 6 this year, in Calgary. He didn’t fit in the bottom 6 with his style, so we had no where to play him. So instead of paying Neal $5.75M to play in a bottom 6 role that he wouldn’t fit in, we pay Lucic $5.25M to play a bottom 6 role that he will fit in to. I agree it’s too much money to pay a bottom 6 guy, but we were going to be doing it either way. At least we have a better fit this way, and for $500,000 cheaper.

Thanks for clarifying.

The other angle for the Aho contract is that it walks him right into UFA, does it not? How much AAV did he give up in order to get that, as well? When thinking about Tkachuk and other RFA’s, unless you’re planning on giving them the same opportunity, you should plan on the AAV to be higher than Aho’s.

Or maybe the blame lays with him for not pushing to make them give him games.

So who makes out better here? Calgary or Edmonton?

I have heard that Mike Smith is headed to the Oilers.