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      Insults/Name-calling will not be tolerated   11/19/2016

      It's great to see the boys earning their way into the playoffs this season (barring a Colorado-would-be-proud collapse).  What a night-and-day difference from way back in November.   With the playoffs, we typically see more traffic/visitors on the site, usually from the opposing team's fanbase (especially from the Oilers).  This is just a reminder that stating your opinion is fine (it's exactly what these forums are for), and friendly, good-natured ribbing is OK, however, name-calling and insults will still be a major no-no and cause for the Banhammer to warm up.  This applies to all new guests and visitors as well: you're more than welcome to join the party, but civility is house rule around here.   All insults/name-calling will be met with a zero-tolerance approach, regardless if you are a new person to the forums, or have been around since these forums began.   First-offenses will be met with a moderator-needs-to-approve-your-post for 3 days Second offenses will be met with a week-long suspension Third offenses will result in a perma-ban   If you have any questions regarding this policy, or would like to voice your concern about it, you are absolutely free to contact me directly.   We all love this team, and this game.  Let's all hop on the Bandwagon, enjoy a few beverages, and ride this wave of excitement as far as we can.   --  Kulstad

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  1. Agreed (and have agreed here for a while). I also agree with the comments about Kane, but Gaudreau is not Kane. There's only one thing less popular I can say, then suggesting a Gaudreau trade. If we are to realize his full value, IMHO, we're very likely looking at the 2018 draft. Or more generally, when we look at a go-forward plan for this team, we're...probably, like it or not, looking at the 2018 draft. JMHO, sorry. It's a defenceman draft. But it is by No means a weak draft. Quite the contrary.
  2. So, reading through this, I think it's fair to say that we're not happy with the results. Whether you spin that in a positive or negative way, I think it's fair to say that most on here want more from the team than first round 4-0 exits. At least, I hope. So....from that perspective, we're not done the rebuild. But, from a prospect pipeline perspective, we are done. We're not getting top picks this year (which is also a weak year), we don't have enough in the pipeline to see the kind of improvements we want, and the 2018/2019 draft is a far away land. We are in the twilight zone. And I don't like it.
  3. You wouldn't like my thoughts on that, because I agree on his value. I see him as a trade deadline trade to a contender. A team that Really needed to go far in the playoffs in a given year, would see his value. ...so yes, the sinister part to this, is that trading him might be a sign that we are re-entering a rebuild to some extent. I won't even start...it's too soon to talk about that. Gaudreau is a very different story. In return, I can see basically anything but another top center. Likely of the prospect variety. A winger, a D, even a top goaltending prospect.. and I think we could use any of them. Personally I would do draft picks too. Of the first round variety.
  4. Yup. He would command some serious return, and it would likely be an extremely unpopular trade. But, we have others like Jankowski coming up. We can afford to trade a center and there's no question he's never been more valuable.
  5. I don't disagree, it's rare and hard to do. For sure. But any player can also be traded, and that's also true. Both sides have been known to win. Taylor Hall was seriously damaged goods, and nobody is calling JH that. More importantly imho, that was a salary trade that the Oilers were forced into. I don't think that's the case here. Although if we shaved some salary off it wouldn't be the worst thing (but likely means draft picks)
  6. The frustrating part is that, when a very small percentage of us suggested trading Johnny at the start of the season...he was far more likely to command that. But the problem with "sell high", is that's the least popular time to sell. Not that he isn't valuable now. He could be far more valuable, imho, to a big market team with his ticket and merchandise draw.
  7. Yeah, tough to say. Byron shouldn't have been waived. But, I do think he should have been traded for assets (either him, or Gaudreau, or both). Just too much small on one team. Byron has done nothing in the playoffs. And I'm talking about his weight as much as his height. I still look at the GM there, and for some of the goalie choices that season. But it's true we'll never know. It's just that I still don't see the goalie situation solved now, and this definitely isn't Hartley.
  8. Ooooohhhh ... I know what happened. I only take 50% responsiblity...due to your unoriginal logo choice, AlbertaBoy
  9. http://fans.flames.nhl.com/community/announcement/3-insultsname-calling-will-not-be-tolerated/ http://fans.flames.nhl.com/community/announcement/3-insultsname-calling-will-not-be-tolerated/ We lost all four of them we didn't we're not apparently So you now understand that these were not Blue Jays fans?
  10. I think you're right, it probably irked BT. And it probably irked Hartley too. At the end of the day...whatever happened isn't entirely clear, but the fact that we had a three-goalie system like we did.... that goes to BT. That was ultimately him. How the three goalies were managed...sure, that's Hartley. But it's a situation which never needed to occur in the first place. It troubles me that Hartley took the rap for it. And yeah, I disagreed with how he handled it, but that was not a situation any coach would want or should have to deal with. That's why there's a GM.
  11. Yes....office move
  12. Dude, first of all, have some class. Secondly, what are you talking about? The Oilers clinched the series last night. It was on every TV in every pub on 17th Ave, basically....and Oilers jerseys everywhere. Here is the link (I guess?) to the Oilers game last night: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/oilers-win-edmonton-party-playoffs-sharks-series-cheering-1.4081798 I couldn't bare to take a picture of what I saw, but TRUST me. Not the Blue Jays, dude. Holy. Meanwhile, Calgary finishes the season scoring Less goals than last year, and gets Royally snuffed out of the playoffs. Yes, I'm talking about the past, but only because that's what the Flames playoffs Are now.
  13. I Don't get it...why we won't address the goalie coach situation :/
  14. The question is...what course? Redwood Meadows? Heritage Pointe? A year ago, BT fired Hartley because "Hartley has taken this team as far as he can". That was the guy who won coach of the year for taking a rag-tag team of much younger, inexperienced Monahans, Gaudreaus, and even Bennetts TO the playoffs, AND into the 2nd round. Fast forward a year, and we have a FAR more experienced, better equipped team, and VASTLY better goaltending (which never had anything to do with Hartley to begin with), and we're the playoff embarrassment of the League with a 4-0 punt. If there was one team which clearly showed we didn't belong there, overall, it was us. Our only salvation was out-shooting the opponent (without actually scoring any goals). I was out on 17th Ave last night. Do you know what I saw? I saw entire pubs full of BLUE JERSEYS. BLUE. Including the bartenders. I watched entire establishments go WILD as the Oilers clinched the series. Fair enough, supporting the province. WAY too soon, if you ask me. They could have waited another week or two. But either way: THAT IS NOT PROGRESS. This is NOT a course I want to Stay on. (Golf Course) BT never specified, when he said "Hartley has taken us as far as he can go", whether he was talking about golf, or Hockey. But in Hartley's time here, this team was all upside, and he quite honestly blew away expectations. We do not have Nearly as much upside now. We have vastly less ways of improving next year, if at all. And, this is, to me, underwhelming. Last night's crowd, definiteley a low point.
  15. I have zero interest in that either, as you're one of the nicer folks on the board. But that actually doesn't make you right every time, and the one thing you failed to do in that incredibly long response (ironically, considering your criticisms), is explain what I accused you of saying that you didn't say. That was your beginning and ending arguement and I saw nothing inbetween which addressed it. So...basically, I still didn't come away from that knowing what got your back up, other than the fact that I dared to disagree with you. Naturally I disagree with much of your response, and respectfully won't get into it, although I will concede that the part about the puck having Elliot's back was funny.