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  1. It’s over man, negotiations are done….or are they? It’s apparent our elected officials do not appreciate what we have. WE, citizens of Calgary were offered a GRAND DESIGN and VISION, providing solutions for ALL of our entertainment needs as well as RECLAMATION and development of prime DT waste-land in one fell swoop (CalgaryNext). The CalgaryNext vision was brilliant, exactly what the city needed to bring our aging or non existent facilities onto the worlds stage. Our incapable and elected officials failed to comprehend the vision and rejected it outright with little explanation. The City instead distracted CSEC by having them look at the opposite side of town while only considering 1/4-1/3 of the CSEC initial vision. The CSEC dumbed it down and entertained the City by providing numbers, real numbers, to an inferior product, ultimately calling it on the inept city bureaucracy. The City is focused on a stand alone arena in East Village. What is the City going to do when the Stamps immediately ask for separate assistance on a new stadium? Or the $260M fieldhouse? Or the eventual clean up on the west side? Where is all the cash ($0.75-1B) going to come from? Those future discussions should be equally as painful considering present discussions on arena have been terminated. What is the city’s financial plan for these three issues? There isn’t one, because the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing. It’s apparent that our elected officials and some citizens do not appreciate what CSEC brings to this city. The CSEC have asked, “please tell us what the public benefit is to this City by having us here”? Nobody would answer that question. The CSEC answered their own question a few days ago because everyone else was afraid too or incapable of. The CSEC proposal’s outline many public benefits. If you look solely at the economic benefit it looks something like this. $481M x 35 yrs = $16.8B. Maybe the CSEC is over estimating and its closer to $10B. Maybe it’s accurate but with inflation over 35 yrs could push it closer to $20B. The CSEC proposes the City contribute $185-225M depending on A or B proposal. What is $185-225M when the end game is a continual and sustained economic public benefit over 35 years in the $10-20 BILLION range? I’m no economist but that looks like a Warren Buffett investment to me (rent and land taxes aside). The Flames have offered to pay near half in either proposal, both rejected. I’m not saying this team is anywhere near pulling up stakes and leaving town, but they just got a lot closer to it. For those who say “let them go”, you had better be careful with your ignorant bluff, it just might happen. I’m not saying the tax payer needs to foot the entire bill either. I’m all for paying less as a tax payer but I also want my city on the worlds stage and now is probably the time to do it when ALL of our facilities are rock bottom. I don’t get the dislike for KK either that I read from a few select posters, that’s your business. I think KK has done an admiral job building, preparing and delivering the two extremely complex proposals/designs and representing the owners who have quietly contributed handsomely to this city. Its sad but next summer shall be interesting when KK (or other) is spotted touring new vacant arena’s around the USA, kicking tires so to speak. If the Flames ever left town, through the now wide open door, there is no way in hell Bettman would ever allow another NHL team back here out of spite. I’ve seen the two proposals, I want negotiations to proceed on proposal A.
  2. Has Edm done anything to help reduce or eliminate the “undesirables” as you describe? Or did they just drop a huge building in the middle of their loitering play-ground to displace them? Sounds like the undesirables are still there, they just moved location. Our “undesirable” is contaminated waste land on the west side of DT adjacent to a river bank that waters (or poisons) millions of people down stream. Flames offered $200M to the City to clean it up, kick starting a state of the art multi-facility that meets the requirements to improve every major sporting and entertainment event moving forward. Nobody will ever offer money to clean up that land again, the waste land will continue to be passed from generation to generation. Given the lack of a deal so far, the Flames proposal in West Village is far superior to what the city wants to do with a stand-alone arena on the east side imo.
  3. The benefits the Flames bring to this city is far greater than what people pretend to understand. That's what the mayor of Baltimore said the night before the Colts pulled out unannounced and moved to Indianapolis.
  4. and that's where you're wrong. Lets wait and see what the Flames proposal is first before we draw conclusions and toss the team to an American city for them to reap the benefits from for decades to come.
  5. Which is precisely why the gibberish you type on this matter means nothing. Dropping landmines in ones home town from afar is not much appreciated.
  6. Imagine for a moment the city of Calgary without the Flames, or Toronto without the Maple Leafs or Montreal without the Canadians or NY without the Rangers. These teams not only entertain each fan base but they stimulate their city/state/provincial economy in unimaginable ways. How many dollars would you estimate exchanged hands due to just one regular season or playoff game? Planes, trains, buses, cars, restaurants, hotels, etc are all receiving the benefits of having an NHL team in their city. To say zero public money should be given to a business that stimulates the economy on a regular basis would be rather narrow minded. I prefer a dynamic city that offers various entertainment venues even though I can not support all. I certainly don’t mind supporting the proposed structure which provides the largest entertainment value for this city. For those who prefer stoic and less dynamic municipalities there are plenty of those in rural AB that would love your support.
  7. Did Ken beat you up in grade school? Maybe he crushed your hand in a hand shake? Not sure what your dislike is for the man. He mentioned non-chalantly months ago what he “could do”, never mentioned holding anyone hostage since. I think King has taken the high road and acted professionally on these entire negotiations. Let it be known that Cross elects to stand next to Nenshi waving bye to the Flames bus as it departs town.
  8. I’d say a little of both. A few months’ back King was quoted as saying something to the effect that; “if negotiations do not go well with the city then the Flames would not threaten to move, they would just move”. Today King says; “we are done negotiating with the city, talks are over.” King will never say he is now open to negotiate with other willing partners because that would alienate his local fan base, but rest assured any business would be taking a serious look at their options. The Flames are intertwined in this community, they support and give back a large chunk. This maneuver would seem to elevate the issue just in time for the Municipal election. Do we want a city with or without the Flames? It’s that simple, enough posturing, bluffing, ignoring, its time to make a deal……or not. Make your choice, then live with the consequences.
  9. I’m not a fan of allowing goals on an obvious offside. I’m not a fan of goals being called back by zero replay evidence available to the viewer. I’m not a fan of the time it takes for referees to review the play after a challenge. Whether a skate is in the air or on the ice when crossing the blue line shouldn’t matter either. Where is the middle ground? Penalizing a team for delay of game when guessing wrong is a good start I suppose. The onus is on the ref to get it right, but I have no problem offering a challenge to the team that feels they were done wrong by. These challenges need sped up. The Flames struggled badly last season with any kind of challenge. This is an area the Flames need to improve on.
  10. Maybe if SB never started last season by taking frequent, undisciplined penalties he may have received more PP time. Instead he chose to sit in the penalty box and watch his team play short handed time after time. Sometimes you need to pull the reigns back and teach the important parts of the game before you let the player taste the gravy. You want to take penalties?...... fine, then you can kill penalties too, that’s how he was handled and I have no problem with that. When he learns the discipline side of the game and appreciates the work required on the PK then maybe he’ll get to see some PP time. Wasn’t happy with SB for the majority of last season and I don’t point fingers at the line mates. We are going to see how intelligent SB is this season.
  11. Championships are never guaranteed. Players will always gravitate to the teams who pay them the most. Occasionally you see players take less to play for teams of their choice (Sharp). I’m not sure the league has ever been healthier. The only cap mess we are going to see are from teams or GM’s who fail to manage their cap. I would gladly take McDavid and make him the richest player in the game. That’s the easy part, the challenging part is to build a championship team around him.
  12. PC has been handing out Lottomax cheques like a drunken sailor ever since he got to Edm. Never understood the rush to extend McD. The McD signing only inflated the Draisaitl signing. I think PC did it checking from behind backwards. Candidate for GM of the year….yup. PC's hangover starts next season when he his 11 FA’s are looking for a new deal and his cheques are all gone.
  13. Your management skills would drag us out of a playoff position this season, adding to the back-log of 3 very good young goaltenders already in the system. It would also lead to BT’s firing after failing to address the GT position. We needed a proven starter to bridge the 1-2 year gap, not another up and comer destined to fail and likely nowhere to play. Smith is better than average, you obviously haven’t watched him play much, but instead resort to combing through columns of meaningless numbers to muster up your predictable “other view”. Age is not the be-all-end-all, Smith has plenty in the tank. Gio does too.
  14. Here is Stephan Hawking's take on the matter Stephen Hawking: alien life is out there, scientist warns February 19, 2014, 11:51 pm FacebookTwitterGoogleSubscribe FacebookTwitterGoogleSubscribe One of the world’s leading scientists makes the claim in a new television documentary series, beginning on the Discovery Channel next month. Hawking says that in a universe with 100 billion galaxies, each containing hundreds of millions of stars, it is unlikely that earth is the only place where life has evolved. “To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational,” he said, according to The Sunday Times. Hawking says that they could be microbes – basic animals such as worms which have been on Earth for millions of years, but suggests that extraterrestrial life could develop much further. “We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet,” Hawking said. “I imagine they might exist in massive ships, having used up all the resources from their home planet. Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and colonise whatever planets they can reach.” The scientist, who is paralysed by motor neurone disease, warned that contact with alien life could spell disaster for the human race. “If aliens ever visit us, I think the outcome would be much as when Christopher Columbus first landed in America, which didn’t turn out very well for the American Indians.” Stephen Hawking: Why Isn’t the Milky Way “Crawling With Self-Designing Mechanical or Biological Life?” July 28, 2015, 2:36 pm FacebookTwitterGoogleSubscribe FacebookTwitterGoogleSubscribe In his famous lecture on Life in the Universe, Stephen Hawking asks: “What are the chances that we will encounter some alien form of life, as we explore the galaxy?” If the argument about the time scale for the appearance of life on Earth is correct, Hawking says “there ought to be many other stars, whose planets have life on them. Some of these stellar systems could have formed 5 billion years before the Earth. So why is the galaxy not crawling with self-designing mechanical or biological life forms?” Why hasn’t the Earth been visited, and even colonized? Hawking asks. “I discount suggestions that UFO’s contain beings from outer space. I think any visits by aliens, would be much more obvious, and probably also, much more unpleasant.” Hawking continues: “What is the explanation of why we have not been visited? One possibility is that the argument, about the appearance of life on Earth, is wrong. Maybe the probability of life spontaneously appearing is so low, that Earth is the only planet in the galaxy, or in the observable universe, in which it happened. Another possibility is that there was a reasonable probability of forming self reproducing systems, like cells, but that most of these forms of life did not evolve intelligence.” We are used to thinking of intelligent life, as an inevitable consequence of evolution, Hawking emphasized, but it is more likely that evolution is a random process, with intelligence as only one of a large number of possible outcomes. Intelligence, Hawking believes contrary to our human-centric existece, may not have any long-term survival value. In comparison the microbial world, will live on, even if all other life on Earth is wiped out by our actions. Hawking’s main insight is that intelligence was an unlikely development for life on Earth, from the chronology of evolution: “It took a very long time, two and a half billion years, to go from single cells to multi-cell beings, which are a necessary precursor to intelligence. This is a good fraction of the total time available, before the Sun blows up. So it would be consistent with the hypothesis, that the probability for life to develop intelligence, is low. In this case, we might expect to find many other life forms in the galaxy, but we are unlikely to find intelligent life.” Another possibility is that there is a reasonable probability for life to form, and to evolve to intelligent beings, but at some point in their technological development “the system becomes unstable, and the intelligent life destroys itself. This would be a very pessimistic conclusion. I very much hope it isn’t true.” Hawkling prefers another possibility: that there are other forms of intelligent life out there, but that we have been overlooked. If we should pick up signals from alien civilizations, Hawking warns,”we should have be wary of answering back, until we have evolved” a bit further. Meeting a more advanced civilization, at our present stage,’ Hawking says “might be a bit like the original inhabitants of America meeting Columbus. I don’t think they were better off for it.”
  15. Correct. It's now just a matter of time before evidence is found. Sounds like your sipping on Kool-Aid in that tub. Try tilting your head back a little further with a beer, or better yet a whiskey, then look a little further. LOL.