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      Insults/Name-calling will not be tolerated   11/19/2016

      It's great to see the boys earning their way into the playoffs this season (barring a Colorado-would-be-proud collapse).  What a night-and-day difference from way back in November.   With the playoffs, we typically see more traffic/visitors on the site, usually from the opposing team's fanbase (especially from the Oilers).  This is just a reminder that stating your opinion is fine (it's exactly what these forums are for), and friendly, good-natured ribbing is OK, however, name-calling and insults will still be a major no-no and cause for the Banhammer to warm up.  This applies to all new guests and visitors as well: you're more than welcome to join the party, but civility is house rule around here.   All insults/name-calling will be met with a zero-tolerance approach, regardless if you are a new person to the forums, or have been around since these forums began.   First-offenses will be met with a moderator-needs-to-approve-your-post for 3 days Second offenses will be met with a week-long suspension Third offenses will result in a perma-ban   If you have any questions regarding this policy, or would like to voice your concern about it, you are absolutely free to contact me directly.   We all love this team, and this game.  Let's all hop on the Bandwagon, enjoy a few beverages, and ride this wave of excitement as far as we can.   --  Kulstad

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  1. The last two arenas built in the NHL were EDM $614M and DET $733M. Do you see the trend? A FB stadium with a roof would seem appropriate considering the most important part of the season is in Oct-Nov when temps could dip to -25C. Scraping the ice and snow off your seat seams so 70’s, 80’s, 90’s. Maybe families would go and support the Stamps more often if they didn’t have to sit in the rain or a blizzard. Think of the Grey Cups we could host. A field house just happens to fit inside a FB stadium, why build two roofs, two structures when one will do? Why dig two holes (arena VP and contamination WV) when you can dig one? You can’t see where saving can be had because your agenda is blocking your vision.
  2. I’m not KK’s brother or family member and no I don’t work for CalgaryNext. I look at the numbers and make my own conclusions…...as a tax payer, fan and resident of Calgary. Which part of my post do you consider inaccurate?
  3. Calgary needs more than just a hockey arena. Throwing your supporting behind just a stand-alone arena ($700-800M) does not solve three other major dilemmas that have immediate costs as well. A new stadium WITHOUT roof ($280M Regina), new field house ($200M -C of C estimate) WITHOUT roof. Contamination clean-up ($200M est). Plan A provides a solution for all our sport and entertainment infrastructure needs saving the tax payer $330M in todays dollars………….and our WV land gets cleaned up ready for additional immediate development. Doing these one at a time is going to take another 10, 20, 30 years, add in inflation and we’ll be paying double, triple for scattered facilities that will be inferior to what todays Plan A provides.
  4. That’s a bit presumptuous. For those of you who want to be educated on the debate and read the facts, I invite you to visit CalgaryNext web site. After you read the information, and if you like the idea, enter your name as a supporter of the project on the front page. http://calgarynext.com/index.php
  5. 7 minor penalties resulting in near 14 minutes of PP time where ANA refused to let us touch the puck, the score was flattering.
  6. Flames take ANA in 7 Flames take EDM in 6 Flames take CHI in 7 Flames take WSH in 7
  7. We got them there Ducks right where we want them, relax boys. Perry's ribs look real sore.
  8. Garry had his World Cup last fall and demonstrated he could make X million on his own. He then tells the Olympic committee for his players to attend he would need X million. Olympic committee tells Garry they like his product but if they pay him then everyone else gets in line for a hand out too. No deal.
  9. I'm sure the city would have a large say in the final physical appearance of any proposal.
  10. Yup. The sheet piling is free, the excavation is free (because your doing it anyway for the arena), you just need to find a place to haul and remediate the contamination.
  11. Baby steps, a proposal like that is extremely complicated to put together, especially in an ever changing landscape. Lets not get hung up on how we got here (which by the way I think has been very professional to date), lets rejoice that someone has offered a vision to solve 4 HUGE problems with one fell swoop at the lowest possible price. Let’s look to the future instead of the past. The Flames have estimated that the cost saving would be $310M if all 3 lumped into one (CalgaryNext). The Flames have offered to toss in $200M as well. That is a savings of an estimated ½ Billion dollars for the tax payer. I’m thinking the quality of a stand alone field house would not be near the quality as one incorporated into CalgaryNext. The Flames have not said what if anything they would contribute to a stand alone arena. It certainly wouldn’t be near $200M considering they still need to build a stadium. There is no better time to clean up this site imo. A gigantic hole will be dug in the ground for a new arena, why not dig the hole where remediation is required, hence even more cost savings towards the clean up.
  12. Correct. With the oldest usually comes the least amenities and functionality which was the intent of that statement. It wasn’t that long ago when the boys used to stand around a trough in the men’s room to take a leak at our stadium. The occasional Pee fight would break out.
  13. He is only stating the obvious in a very gentle manner. We have the oldest stadium in the County. We have the oldest arena on the Continent. Its time for smart people to start figuring this out. It’s time to stop hookinging and complaining, its GO TIME!
  14. I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised by this. Here is what he said. "There would be no threat to move, we would just move, and it would be over. And I'm trying my level best to make sure that day never comes frankly," King said during an interview on Sportsnet Fan 590 in Toronto on Wednesday. "If people smarter than us in more powerful positions than ours don't feel that we're a critical piece of the social, economic and cultural part of our city then who are we to argue with that?" http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ken-king-calgary-flames-arena-next-1.4050989
  15. Imagine that sheet pile wall cut off just below the top of river bank, then covered on the outside with sloped Rip-Rap similar to where the two men are standing, you wouldn't even know the sheet wall was there. I just choose that pic to show this type of cut-off wall can be used at waters edge. As you say, pipeline failures happen all the time, often in streams and water ways. The pipeline owners or oil company's throw everything at it and its cleaned up in no time because they don't want the negative publicity. Cost is irrelevant for them.