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  1. im curious why you have this impression. I dont understand why everyone makes it out like he needs to be protected like hes some china doll. Star players get injured on every team in the NHL, it doesnt mean they arent protected.
  2. I agree. But if we have andersson and hamilton in our top 4, we dont really need any prospects necessarily ready for a few years. Adam fox is a right shot,, obviously a few years away,, and I guess it depends how the organization sees morrison. But If I was BT I wouldnt be overly worried about our RHSH pipeline as he can draft a guy this year, hopefully hes ready for 3rd pairing duties down the road, but thats all we would need.
  3. If MAF can be had for a 3rd, which is basically what we are giving for elliott there isent much of a difference there. But I dont know if I agree that he will be a cheap acquisition regardless of the ED.
  4. Its totally possible kulak goes in the ED, either way it shouldnt be overly hard to find a #6 to fill in that spot next to stone if thats the case. I suggested kulak because BT said he wants a couple young guys to come in next season,, so that should make things interesting. I like dumba as a player, but I think we are less in need of help on our backend with our pipeline, andersson should be a top 4 D man sooner then later, hickey should be a 2nd pairing guy, kylington is looking better and better everyday. I dont think we need to make a trade for a D man unless you see us getting rid of gio, stone should be able to be had at 3m a year or less, id say on a 2-3 year deal. Goalies is a good point,, but we wiill probably have to wait for the stanley cup finals to be done for a move like that.
  5. TD got the right quote. I just dont think we pay the price for MAF to come here, and then deal with his contract it just doesnt seem like smart management to me especially with what we have in the pipe. I think we are more likely to see as TD said there elliot coming back or a different veteran maybe even johnson come back with a younger guy we trade for like a grubauer. Its not the sexy trade or starter everyone wants in my opinion, but BT has always been a long term guy and bringing in a MAF or bishop didnt necessarily make long term sense. It could always end up being a surprise and we could get MAF, but based on BT comments I think any veteran guy on long term/dollars is probably out of the question.
  6. I agree completely with you that hes a great 4th line player, and we would should be happy to have him back in that role along with his penalty killing. I really dont think hes blocking anyone at 4th line rw as I dont think hathaway is a better option. The only way I dont see him being brought back is if his contract in arbitration is something ridiculous, otherwise he should be here next year.
  7. So did I, thats a really surprising one. Maybe he will go play for a year and come back who knows, im assuming he didnt have much to offer to the hockey ops side or else he might have retired to join that role.
  8. I really doubt that, I cant remember BTs exact comments but para phrasing something like we dont want an old goaltender and we dont want to pay big term/dollars. It was in regards to bishop but I dont see them that differently.
  9. Im honestly starting to wonder if BT is waiting to see who gets picked from us in the expansion draft. I dont think its going to change the moves he makes too much but I think it will effect it if brouwer or stajan get taken. I personally think as I stated in another thread that BT brings in andersson to play in the top 4 as long as his fitness improves, and kulak to play bottom pairing minutes with stone. I know its not the best idea to thrust a rookie in there, but unless BT gets a young dman in a trade its hard for him to overpay in free agency when our guys should be ready sooner then later. Its almost certainly a pipe dream, but id love to see the flames pick up niederreiter to play with mony and johnny leaving ferland to play with backlund and frolik. The only reason I think the trade for niederreiter might work is because minny is coming to a crossroads with their group as they get older, and they might want to retool with picks/cap space. Goaltenders is obviously the hard part, im not really sure where we go with that. Elliott would be a good option but we are risking term, dollars, and a 3rd rounder on him bouncing back. Im assuming the more likely plan is we trade that 3rd + some other stuff for a grubauer or similar goaltender in the younger age group, and bring back johnson for backup duties. That would be my dream team going into next season, if we could make a better move for a top 4 dman whos proven then sure, but I dont think thats going to happen based on BT comments and the market. Anderrson should be a good option if he can get his fitness level up a bit over the summer, as consistency in the top 4 should come easy then.
  10. I get where youre coming from but brodie and monahan would definatly have to be the right deal, I think its pretty doubtful you find that right deal. In term of the players you suggested I think its pretty likely D gets replaced internally but Id be willing to trade our 1st for drouin or neiderreiter, neiderreiter being one of the best options out there in terms of being a big right handed shot who moves the puck the right way. If I could pick anyone it would be him, and I think he takes our 1st to aquire for sure, which makes it hard for us to trade for a D man. But as I posted in the flames defence thread I think if andersson works on his fitness over the summer he could be ready to step in as the #4, consistency should come easier if his fitness is right. The addition of a healthy and fit andersson, along neiderreiter in our top 6 would be huge additions for this team. Hopefully pushing stone and kulak to be our third pairing guys. I think that would mean ferland would be alongside backlund and frolik, leaving tkachuk and lazar to play with bennett. That solves alot of our issues, and means we dont get stuck making some silly choice in terms of a long term deal for a top 4 D man.
  11. Im pretty sure what you are suggesting here is the most likely situation for our D corp going into next season. Unless stone doesnt come back, I dont think the flames want another long term commitment in the top 4 unless they can find a young guy ala hamilton to slide in. That D group actually doesnt look half bad if andersson can make some strides over the summer in terms of fitness, the consistency in his game should come easier. I dont mind the bartowski stone pairing,, but I think that would be a last resort, as I wasent a huge fan of bartowski, he seems to have a lot of the tools but lacks the smarts. Id rather see kulak step in for 3rd pairing duties along side stone and then have bartowski as my #7.
  12. I believe the weighted portion is that there is 4 combinations of balls(numbers that comes out), so 1-2-3-4 etc etc. There is more number combinations assigned to the teams lower in the standings. So vancouver and arizona, had way more combinations available to get 1st oa while philly will have less combinations. I cant find the spreadsheet they use, but there are various combinations. Its not 1 ball per team, its 1 combination for 1st overall. SO 1-2-3-4 is 1st oa for vancouver. While 1-2-3-5 would be 1st oa for new jersey.
  13. Yea I didnt know that. But im wondering what talbots numbers were against playoff teams before his trade, because im assuming those games against playoff teams were also on back to backs sometimes. Im just assuming based on BTs comments that hes not looking at someone like MAF,, I think hes either going for a younger guy or sticking with our current tandem as a placeholder for our younger prospects.
  14. I agree completely. Which is why my arguement to trade backlund I think helps us regardless. If he nets us a solid puck mover on the back end it only serves to make the team better same thing with a top 6 winger, not that hes not important. But I think the loss of backlund could be covered by jankowski if he comes into camp with the right attitude. Im not suggesting janko is the same level, just that it wouldnt be as bad as we think. I dont think we would see the flames make that kind of trade regardless of realistic trade thread or not. I think we are more likely to find a replacement in a player like boone jenner or something along those lines. I dont think we need to make a big splash for our top 9 but we do need to find another good complimentary top 9 winger to fill in the gap.
  15. Im really starting to wonder if grubauer is that guy who the flames should be trying to trade for. Obviously he doesnt have the greatest size for a goalie, but hes been very good in a backup role for washington and hes lighting up the world championships right now. Im assuming the sticking point right now is that its hard to give washington a similar deal to what new york got for talbot as we have next to no picks this summer, but at the same time we dont really want to trade our 1st. I would assume at this point matt murray is #1 for the flames and grubauer is #2 in terms of goals to acquire. Im assuming this because of BT comments on ben bishop, I dont think hes interested in going for fleury and I would be surprised to see him go for an older goal in free agency.