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  1. I'm not saying there aren't or won't be value guys out there. But one also has to think about the current stable. Who ever would have though Hathaway could be a NHL player? Look at a guy like Gaudreau for Nashville. Comes into a high pressure series and manages to win key faceoffs and contribute. I just don't want to see a 4th line of grinders who can't even control the play against other 4th liners.
  2. Chychrun dropped in a deep first round to 16. I can't think any teams would pass on that. But some are going to look at their stable of D and think we need something to impact sooner than 3-4 years from now. A mistake. It makes sense to us to take him, but we also don't have many high-impact forwards in the system. IMHO, you take the best available every time. Trade them if you don't need them later.
  3. It's looking like he may be one of the guys to fall the most. Available at 16? Some rank him around 8th or 12th. Not sure what the latest is though.
  4. If I'm reading this correctly, Mason is above Elliott. This chart is deceptive though. It shows Jake Allen just slight above Grubauer. Wouldn't it be true that these two faced similar work as Elliott? Light and towards the middle (unchallenged/challenged)? I think to get a better picture of it, you have to superimpose win/loss, SA% and GAA to be able to draw suitable conclusions.
  5. Here's a little writeup on Foote (quoted from M&G): Cal Foote (D) 6’4” 210 LBS Kelowna Rockets (WHL) 71 GP, 6 G, 51 A, 57 PTS, 41 PIM, +39 The last name will be familiar to you, as he is the son of former NHLer, Adam Foote. As the son of a very prominent former NHLer, you know that Foote is going to be receiving a lot of attention and probably going to get some benefit of the doubt for being associated with “the Foote Brand”. Unlike Rasmussen, I do not think Foote would be a horrible pick in general. I do however, think he would be a horrible pick at 16th overall. While his point totals are pretty solid for a defensemen, they almost come entirely in the form of assists and a good portion of it came on the powerplay. So it is worth questioning how much offensive capability he may have at the NHL level. Furthermore, there are questions about his mobility and in the NHL today, getting around the ice plays more of a significant role than ever before. Another player that had questions about his offensive capabilities at the professional level, alongside mobility issues? Griffin Reinhart, who has yet to breakthrough to the NHL level, 5 years after being drafted. Foote is a right-shot D and could provide that “stay-at-home” presence that the Flames lack on their backend. However, the Nashville Predators lack that sort of player on their defense and it looks like they are doing just fine without one. There are going to be more talented players available than Foote at the 16th pick, if the Flames are set on selecting him, they should absolutely be trading down to pick him up.
  6. The tale of two Berniers is like the tale of two Elliotts. The Toronto Bernier or the Anaheim regular season Bernier. The win streak Elliott or the Flames playoff Elliott. Personally, I felt that Bernier played better when their defense was much more structured during the regular season. He gave up a lot against Nashville, but that's as much breakdowns as inferior play. Bottom line is that their starter could have been the difference in the series, but he was injured. Relying on a backup in the playoffs in a close series is just enough of a downgrade to decide it. I prefer that we get a solid guy to mentor the new starter. The new starter will determine how many games he can play.
  7. If you trade Backs at all, it has to be by TDL next year. After that he has no trade value as a pending UFA. By July 1st, BT should have an idea of what Backs is looking at for a raise. If it's close to $6m, then you have to think he is not being re-signed.
  8. Speed was key for Gretzky. And having linemates that could finish the play. Easy enough for JH to pass off, but having those types with him and in position is key. When the other team identifies JH as the most dangerous player on the ice, they are going to force his hand. I will say that JH should use more of the middle of the ice, where he has more room.
  9. We seem to be stuck on filling the 4th line with vets, and the only way a prospect cracks the roster is if he is good enough to play on the 3rd line or higher, and that is usually only via injury replacement. I'm not saying that Shinkaruk or Poirier are the right fit or even that good, but why not at least get them minutes on the 4th line. Do we really need to play Bouma and Stajan on the 4th line? At some point we move on from both, but don't have anybody moving up and in to replace. Wouldn't it be nice for a change to see a line of players making the transition? Klimchuk-Janko-Versteeg or something like that?
  10. Not a direct comp, but how far back do you think he is from Backlund? The points are relatively close. The FO% gap is decreasing. He's getting better as a two-way player. I would say the chances of Bennett reaching the same utility level as Backlund is higher than Backlund improving. So, you sell Backlund when his value is high and his salary will get a big bump. Or you sell low on Bennett to a team looking at his young age and thinking he can become a real good player.
  11. Guys like Crosby and Marty SL work on the things they can make bigger or stronger. I smaller guy is going to get pushed down a lot, unless he can build core and leg strength. Cammi was famous for it. MSL is (was) a small beast. Crosby has great leg strength. Ferland is a good example of the best of both worlds; speed, size and toughness. If you want bigger players, target guys that exhibit are tough to play against.
  12. Sure, he can play chicken with teams needing to deal. I think it's highly likely that BT has one or two goalies on his must-have list. He's got to have dialog with the GM's that have the guys he's interested in, otherwise they may panic and sell to another team for a bargain. Waiting till the summer is not a great idea. They may be a surplus of "okay" goalies available, but he probably would have to talk to Vegas about one they picked. Last summer he waited till the draft to make the deal, while he had immediate assets (2016 picks). He was trying to get Bishop and that fell through one way or the other. He ended up at the draft with his 2nd choice. Having fewer picks this year is a bit of a stumbling point. He may generate more interest in 2018 picks for teams not thrilled with this draft. I think by the time the draft roll around, BT will have his starter. The backup/fallback plan will get picked up in FA or via a minor trade. One of the two will be an experienced starter. The other will be a guy ready to be a starter. Just the way I think it's looking. Here are my guesses at combos, since I love guessing: Grubauer/Mason Raanta/Mason Other choices out there, but this is what I think it end up being and it sets us up until Gillies or Parsons proves they are NHL goalies. Not re-signing Elliott saves us a 3rd in 2018.
  13. Some mixed messages in that train of thought. The first train was that if MAF unprotected (through trade to WASH) LV would claim him. That gets the interest away from their other players. WASH has already traded Grubauer to us, so they have that trade assets (picks or whatever). The part I forgot about was what they would give up to get MAF in the first place. The 2nd train was if traded to WASH and MAF goes unclaimed, they could trade him to CAR. They return wouldn't be that great, but at least CAR can get him without having to worry about the ex draft. In the end, it makes more sense for WASH to just keep who they have. But, I will keep that quiet. Don't want WASH to hear.
  14. I think it would be safe to say that LV would claim MAF if they had the chance. He would give them the time to develop the team in front of him as well as giving time to whatever 1b or backup was behind him. The remainder of starters left unprotected in June is going to be mostly backups and leftovers. The choices of starters for Vegas in FA will be guys like Mason, Reimer, Bernier. Sure they could sign without anything other than $$, but the player might hold out for a longer term than 2 years. Carolina would be a good destination after the draft. They need to protect Darling. They need to deal wit the other two under contract. Neither is that good. Possibly one is demoted and the other is bought out. WSH trades for MAF and deals him after the draft (if he isn't claimed) to CAR. They recoup the investment they paid to get MAF. And they still have whatever we sent them for Grubauer.
  15. I would argue that the Pengies were a better team in front of MAF, and he still had those results. The Flames with MAF against the Ducks? Anybody's guess. We were not just bad in nets. We let them get shots away that deflected off defenders, got 2nd chances on rebounds, shots of the faceoff, etc. And our forwards could not contain any players in the D-zone.