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  1. I don't think negotiations are getting "ugly" until you have some animosity between the two sides and to date neither side has shown any even hint of disastifaction or dissapproval with the process. In the grand scheme of things, these deals realy arn't taking near as long as people think. Several high profile RFA, including Schiefelle and Mackinnon signed a few weeks ago and those 2 teams weren't negotiations with 2 stars like the Flames are. Until someone indicates there is animosity there is no reason to suggest they are getting ugly or that there is an issue. for what it is worth, Treliving did a hit on Sirius Satellite radio the other day and said they would have a conclusion "sooner rather then later". Treliving doesn't tip his hand very often so for him to say that I take it at face value.
  2. What gets lost when people talk about the Detroit model is Detroit has traditionally drafted very late so the prospects they get are often futher away from the NHL. I think if people are holding up the Detroit model and using it as proof that ALL prospects should wait, your are missing the point. To me the Detroit model represents that the vast majority of prospects need to wait and should wait until they are ready but that they are always exceptions and the player is going to tell you when you have an exception or not. Bottom line, Tkachuk is going to tell the Flames were he is going to play this year based on his offseason work and how he performs in Camp. I don't your "needs" as a club should, or will, matter in the decision its up Tkachuk just like it was with Mony. That is following the Detroit (and imo the proper) development model anyway.
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    Goaltending

    Personally I think the rise of tandems is a talent issue. There are lots of good goalies in the league right now but not a lot of great ones and I don't think teams want to be trotting out "good" goalies for 50-60 games. Just entering an era where j don't think you'll see a lot of great goalies like Kipper, Roy, Brodeur etc. Edit: also to expand because I think there are more good goalie then before I think teams are having to find ways to get them invovled. I think something the expansion draft has shown you is most teams in the NHL now go 2-3 goalies deep in terms of good or decent options and that just wasn't the case 15 years ago or so. The old model of riding 1 guy and just letting your next guy rise up behind him seems to be dead and teams want to try and get more young goalies invovled earlier on.
  4. Maybe. Really depends on what Wideman you get. I think the Wideman of 2 years ago could handle a top 4 role on this team but the Wideman of last year? No way. We'll see. I mean the one thing the Flames do have going for them in terms of keeping Wideman is he tends to follow up poor years with good to very good ones. Hasnt' realy put together 2 good or 2 bad years in a row throughout his career.
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    Goaltending

    I get where you are going but your example isn't a great one. In baseball there is actually no definitive data on the subject, and in fact there are as many studies that say there is no impact between how many innings you throw and arm injuries. Bascially for every study or analytics that says it will lead to injury there is one that says there isn't and in fact some have argued that the rise in arm injuries is actually due to too many young pictchers being kept on innings limits and not building up muscle base. It's, very much an inexact science which is why there is so much debate around it. I think its impossible to apply analytics or data to injuries. No 2 players in any sport or any situation are alike, be it their gene pool, training regiment, game situations etc they ae never alike. So for me to try and draw a link that playing X amount of games will lead to this certain type of injury is a falasy. Goalies specifically, both Demko and Gilles played in the NCAA system where typically the starter plays less than 40 games and both got hurt. yet then you have guys come out of the CHL system who typically will start more than 40 and sometimes 50 games a year and they arn't having the same issues. I have no doubt, and fully agree, that data and studies will continue to help us understand injuries but I think drawing a conclusive link to games played = certain injury risk will likely never be fully supported. Too many external variables you cannot control.
  6. What do you think is going to change between now and the fall that facilitate more trades? I think it's a reality of economics. 1 third of the league has less than 3 million in cap space and a little over half has less than 5 mill in cap space. Even if you cover the maximum salary allowed, Wideman still isn't really a factor for many teams around the league unless you take an equal contract in return and then I be the Flames would ask themsvles what is the point? You are right, he may still get dealt but i'm very skeptical. I fully expect he'll be a Flame come October.
  7. While I agree in theory, the problem is who are you moving out? You are likely moving guys out because you don't like their contracts and then the question becomes who wants them? I see we are seeing very clearly that outside of July 1, teams just are not interested in trading for salary or term right now. I think if Wideman was tradable he would have been moved by now so I think the message is pretty clear that Wideman isn't going anywhere. James Wisniewski is still out there as a pending UFA and no one has picked him up and I think if a team really wnated a RH shot dman they'd likely pick him up for free at a fraction of what Wideman will cost. I really thought the Flames could deal Wideman but its looking like either they can't, or he said No. Either way I think Wideman will be on the opening day roster. Flames problem is the guys they want to move are expensive and no one wants the $. They guys they could move out, they likely don't want to part with. I personaly don't think its very smart to part with Engelland, his depth is very valuable and IMO he's worth his contract.
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