• Announcements

    • Kulstad

      Insults/Name-calling will not be tolerated   11/19/2016

      Tensions are high around this team and its fans.  It is very obvious that everyone here is passionate about the Flames, and has an opinion about what should be done to fix our unstable ship.  Stating your opinion is fine, it's exactly what these forums are for.   However, the name-calling and the insults are not required.   All insults/name-calling will be met with a zero-tolerance approach, regardless if you are a new person to the forums, or have been around since these forums began.   First-offenses will be met with a moderator-needs-to-approve-your-post for 3 days Second offenses will be met with a week-long suspension Third offenses will result in a perma-ban   If you have any questions regarding this policy, or would like to voice your concern about it, you are absolutely free to contact me directly.   We all love this team, and this game.  Let's continue to keep it civil around here.   --  Kulstad

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

senor_incendiarse

Mike Keenan's Fan 960 Interview

21 posts in this topic

In case anyone wants to know what he had to say here is the link

http://www.fan960.com/home/media.jsp?content=20120404_123135_8420

-States his firing came from management and not Sutter, Sutter felt injuries caused the failure in '09 but mgmt still wanted him gone.

-Dion was vocal, Nystrom has good character traits, Jarome was quiet but never had any issues with him. Believes actions on ice speak more than words in the room.

-Felt Kipper was not as good for him as he has been for others.

-Saw similarity between Iggy and Messier, Messier was also quiet but battled on the ice and he thought Jarome did the same. Felt Iggy still needed to learn more in the leadership aspect to embrace his team mates and not try to do it all on his own, it was something he would have worked on with him had he not been fired.

-Feels Iggy doesn't want to bail on the team.

-This team just not built to win a championship now.

-Infighting between Dion and Regehr needed to be handled in house instead of dismantling.

-Thought ingredients were there in '09 to get better.

-Couldn't find a job where he could go 3 years without making the playoffs, in his case he lost jobs for not getting far in the playoffs. Doesn't state whether Brent should or shouldn't be fired.

-Wants another coaching job, felt he unfairly lost his job here and wants to end on a better note.

4 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't know.

Good interview with great questions.

End of the day though, he wasn't the Iron Mike that worked over Regehr and Phaneuf and settled it.

It became someone else's problem.

He pretty much derailed Langkow at every turn, and didn't get Iginla to some ethereal next level he figures only he knows.

That's my grain of salt, for starters.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I feel Mike Keenan was fired a little too soon to tell his ability as a coach after only 2 years (both successive to playoff appearances). Compared to Brent Sutter who hasn't been let go of even after missing the playoffs for 3 consecutive years, I think Keenan is better as "he got--" Iginla to the 50 goal plateau against the Canucks in his last year (the one with the retiring of Trevor Linden). Yes it's not a complete argument but I think that bringing the Flames to the playoffs twice is better than Sutter's attempts. Honestly I thought Brent was brought in because Darryl wanted his brother to coach the Flames, no other reason.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't know.

Good interview with great questions.

End of the day though, he wasn't the Iron Mike that worked over Regehr and Phaneuf and settled it.

It became someone else's problem.

He pretty much derailed Langkow at every turn, and didn't get Iginla to some ethereal next level he figures only he knows.

That's my grain of salt, for starters.

derailed Langkow? Are you watermeloning kidding me? Langkow had the 2nd best season of his career in the first year under Keenan, then in year 2 he shattered his hand and returned early from injury because of all the other injury problems the team was having.

And how can you say he didn't get Iginla to the next level? Iginla averaged over 42 goals and 93 points per season under Keenan. Far better production that we saw out of Iginla under any other coach (except Playfair)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Did he say anything about Tanguay? IMO that is the # 1 reason he isn't right for us. He says Iginla is a god but refuses to put the two together even though they have proven chemistry.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Great interview, although take what he says with a grain of salt. He was fired unceremoniously and probably has a bit of axe to grind. I didn't particularly like Mike Keenan as coach. He was okay, but his style is more suited to how the game was played 25 years ago. That's why he'll never coach in this league again. Sorry Mike, you're gonna have to leave your coaching career on a negative note.

Ultimately, hiring Brent Sutter is what took this organization down. Everything just went to hell after that hiring. It was a risky proposition from the start considering the familial angle.

I was fine with removing Keenan but it would have been much smarter if the Flames after Dave Tippett. That, or Darryl Sutter should have stepped behind the bench himself.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

derailed Langkow? Are you watermeloning kidding me? Langkow had the 2nd best season of his career in the first year under Keenan, then in year 2 he shattered his hand and returned early from injury because of all the other injury problems the team was having.

And how can you say he didn't get Iginla to the next level? Iginla averaged over 42 goals and 93 points per season under Keenan. Far better production that we saw out of Iginla under any other coach (except Playfair)

I'm not saying he didn't get Iginla to the next level, he's saying it.

Listen to the interview for chrissakes.

How was Langkow's 2nd year again?

Oh right, he got boarded by flipping Cooke and Keenan pretty much defended Cooke.

Lot's of respect there.

How did he resolve Phaneuf and Regehr again?

Oh right, he didn't.

Kiprusoff didn't what? bail him out as much as he would have liked?

Right, all hail Iron Mike...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm not saying he didn't get Iginla to the next level, he's saying it.

Listen to the interview for chrissakes.

How was Langkow's 2nd year again?

Oh right, he got boarded by flipping Cooke and Keenan pretty much defended Cooke.

Lot's of respect there.

How did he resolve Phaneuf and Regehr again?

Oh right, he didn't.

Kiprusoff didn't what? bail him out as much as he would have liked?

Right, all hail Iron Mike...

I listened to the interview, thanks. I am done though I can't reply to you without getting a warning or something.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I listened to the interview, thanks. I am done though I can't reply to you without getting a warning or something.

For godsakes man, can't you be baited at all?

You've gotta lighten up.

I'm not exactly throwing all-knowing truths around.

There's no discussion if we all stand around nodding in agreement.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I find this interesting. Definitely one of the most candid interviews we've had from behind the scenes of the flame's organization in a long time.

He said some things about Iggy that I definitely found interesting. He definitely did not characterize Iginla as the terrible leader that lots of people around here want to make him out to be. Just one more opinion to throw into the mix.

This is really the first time we've heard exactly what the problems in the locker room were. If it's true that the fighting was between Reghr and Phaneuf, I'm surprised they chose to move Phaneuf, when Reggie's game was so obviously sliding at the time. Perhaps this isn't a complete look at what was going on in the dressing room?

His comments regarding his firing seem strange to me. I find it difficult to believe that Sutter didn't have anything to do with the firing and it seemed like Keenan was reluctant to give him a free pass. Ultimately, I don't think Sutter would have lied to Keenan's face, but who knows.

Anyways, just some thoughts.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This is really the first time we've heard exactly what the problems in the locker room were. If it's true that the fighting was between Reghr and Phaneuf, I'm surprised they chose to move Phaneuf, when Reggie's game was so obviously sliding at the time. Perhaps this isn't a complete look at what was going on in the dressing room?

This has been said before. Keenan was also vocal that it was not just Regehr that had problem with Iggy and the alot of the team came to him asking for Dion to be disciplined and called him "neon Dion". It was more than just Regehr vs Phaneuf.

His comments regarding his firing seem strange to me. I find it difficult to believe that Sutter didn't have anything to do with the firing and it seemed like Keenan was reluctant to give him a free pass. Ultimately, I don't think Sutter would have lied to Keenan's face, but who knows.

Anyways, just some thoughts.

Ya i also have questions about this one becuase this is the first time Keenan has said that he felt it came from outside Sutter. He has always just said the he got fired by Ken King, not Sutter, but his tone was always that Sutter stood by it and suported it. I also have a very hard time beliving that Sutter would have wanted to keep Keenan but King stepped in and said no. From everything i've heard King would do ANYTHING Sutter wanted and basically revered the man.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This has been said before. Keenan was also vocal that it was not just Regehr that had problem with Iggy and the alot of the team came to him asking for Dion to be disciplined and called him "neon Dion". It was more than just Regehr vs Phaneuf.

Ya i also have questions about this one becuase this is the first time Keenan has said that he felt it came from outside Sutter. He has always just said the he got fired by Ken King, not Sutter, but his tone was always that Sutter stood by it and suported it. I also have a very hard time beliving that Sutter would have wanted to keep Keenan but King stepped in and said no. From everything i've heard King would do ANYTHING Sutter wanted and basically revered the man.

Yes this is the true root of the origin of the Flames descent.

King had grown far too personally close to Sutter, trusted him absolutely and even if others in the Flames organization had gone to King and said "Uh Ken, I'm not sure about this Neuf trade" or this Ranger trade for Kotalik. King would have told them to sit down.

This is the fundamental flaw in the whole chain of command and lead to the Flames descent. D Sutter had no check and balance, ran out of ideas and started to go wild, actually damaging the foundation of the team.

Everything I have heard is consistent with this. Now with Jay Feaster in the house the opposite has happened. Edwards is involved, King is looking at everything, including signing friggin draft picks. They know they screwed up with D Sutter and don't want to again.

Really Ken King should be held accountable and they should hire another President to come in. If there is any ownership interference it should stop, it never ends well. Untie Feaster's hands let him do his job, if you are not confident in him go get another GM who you are.

Personally I have no issues with the majority of Feaster's moves.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I believe a lot of what Keenan has to say regarding the Flames has to be taken with a grain of salt...

Somewhere amongst the truthful comments and honest opinions, no doubt there are some omissions as to what he could say, and perhaps some half truths of other things he does comment on...

After all, Keenan is looking for another job in the league, so either way he will try and craft his words carefully... Perhaps when he packs in his coaching hopes for good, we might hear more...

One thing I will say, is I think Keenan should have got a chance for another year... Butter had similar talent levels of players to work with, and has failed to get the team to the playoffs in his three years...

Speaking of which... After giving it further thought, I am starting to believe that King can follow Butter out the door... Hell, for that matter, he might as well open it and lead the way...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think it was a great interview. Granted it didn't tell us anything that most of us already didn't know / suspect.

Personally I would like it if we tossed Ken King out and put Mike in as President. I think that he could make a potent combo with Feaster, assuming management was willing to let them do their jobs interference free.

Mike's got the hockey smarts / credibility and Feaster I think has the knack for digging the right players out.

We all know that it's a pipe dream though.

Here is what I expect to happen.

King stays, Feaster Stays, Iggy and Kipper Stay, in fact our front 6 and 4 probably don't change at all, irving and Karlson will fight for backup position and we will swap around some spare parts and pretend the team is a contender.

Why, because I honestly believe that is what the owners will want. They think they have a good product on the ice and until they run off that cliff they won't believe different.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Keenan was a good coach. Only thing I didnt like about him was that hes not a guy with any system or set plays. If you have a good assistant for him who is good in those areas I think it would be perfect.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sour grapes. This is the second time he has requested an interview to complain about being fired.

But it does show what outsiders think of the Flames roster. Not good enoigh to be a championship team.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sour grapes. This is the second time he has requested an interview to complain about being fired.

But it does show what outsiders think of the Flames roster. Not good enoigh to be a championship team.

Lol, I find it funny that that is what caught your attention.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

For godsakes man, can't you be baited at all?

You've gotta lighten up.

I'm not exactly throwing all-knowing truths around.

There's no discussion if we all stand around nodding in agreement.

The problem with ding dog and company is that they are convinced that their opinion is correct no matter the case. And that anyone who is arguing with them is inferior both in intellect, and personality. People like him also love to through insults to demoralized their opponents, and to improve self bravado.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bruceumins Get the hell off our forums you low life. We don't want your frigging drugs. Go peddle your crap elsewhere.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

33 canada buy suprax ; 71 purchase suprax ? 62 discount suprax : 64 cefixime price urinary tract infections . 95 odt cost compare zofran ? 69 cost is zofran ? 66 zofran for sale online pharmacy : 49 zofran cost risks : 66 diflucan cap prices , 39 online diflucan dark urine , 93 order online cheap diflucan . 14 order diflucan online side effects : 82 vytorin for sale no prescription needed ? 85 vytorin drug prices : 47 vytorin 10 20 cost . 28 vytorin retail price 20mg ? 53 buy benicar internet : 35 pharmacy benicar . 94 sale benicar ; 98 benicar cheap

Share this post


Link to post

39 cost metoprolol : 55 metoprolol price walmart ? 19 for sale of metoprolol , 69 metoprolol succinate buy no prescription . 59 wal-mart prescription prices for donepezil hcl ; 29 aricept cost medicare : 56 purchase aricept fedex overnight ! 74 what does aricept look like cheap : 12 buy zithromax uk ; 47 azithromycin 200mg 5ml buy zithromax , 45 lyme azithromycin no prescription ; 75 500mg dosage buy zithromax ? 64 chloroquine prices : 76 price of aralen : 19 chloroquine phosphate price ! 82 price of chloroquine . 92 buy diflucan cheap ; 49 buy diflucan fluconazole esophageal candidiasis : 19 diflucan cost ; 43 buy diflucan online fungal infections

Share this post


Link to post

28 buspirone online . 21 buspar buy where . 77 buspar price drugs ! 58 cheapest buspar no prescription ! 41 buy clindamycin solution . 64 buy clindamycin ? 84 shenzhen pharmacy clindamycin ! 27 cleocin and fluoro store . 44 order cephalexin canadian ; 65 keflex 500 mg cheap : 16 cephalexin what is it price for , 25 order discount keflex ; 75 keflex sale . 27 fish flex cephalexin price ? 88 online keflex no rx needed ! 68 buy keflex online oral suspension , 98 price of maxalt ? 15 maxalt online rizatriptan ! 44 price generic maxalt ; 13 maxalt rpd 10 mg buy

Share this post


Link to post

81 buy online cheap revia ; 35 purchasing naltrexone , 87 buy naltrexone . 55 naltrexone mexican pharmacy ! 56 risperdal prices . 79 risperidone discount ! 26 buy risperdal from canada : 91 trip buy risperdal online ? 45 otc cheap albendazole mg , 15 dosage cheap albendazole ! 17 buy cheap albenza ! 99 albendazole cost , 29 misoprostol pricing ; 23 buy misoprostol cytotec online ; 14 cytotec best buy : 98 online cytotec without ? 29 omnicef pills online pharmacy ; 11 omnicef online cefuroxime axetil . 42 omnicef medicamento farmacia online , 22 150 mg omnicef online

Share this post


Link to post

49 purchase pfizer zithromax 250mg spain . 71 order online generic azithromycin , 92 azithromycin price chlamydia ? 19 zithromax annostus cheapest ; 81 clomid no prescription online ! 47 buy clomid vancouver bc . 54 nolvadex clomid sale ! 53 cost clomid some ! 48 low dose naltrexone buy where : 38 low dose naltrexone buy where ? 15 buy revia book , 39 revia 50 mg online pharmacies , 95 colchicine canada pharmacy : 65 colchicine prices generic drugs ; 38 purchase colchicine : 25 colchicine prices generic drugs ! 43 otc cheap albendazole mg ; 16 albendazole pharmacy ? 63 delivery of albendazole at the colon . 67 buy albendazole without a prescription

Share this post


Link to post

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.