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#1 Crzydrvr

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:43 PM

And so we begin our next journey. Once again, thanks to the guys that contributed to the last thread (DX, C_Worthy, that black guy....and the list goes on). 10,000+ views is a lot. I'll once again be tweaking the format a bit; this first post shall now be "home" and I'll link back important posts to this page so if you're looking for something specific, it's all in one place. Too many times last year I found that I'd have to search through 10+ pages' worth of posts looking for one specific one.

I'll also link posts that you guys put up too, so if you've got your own lists, you can update them here and I'll definitely link it for you! These "linked" posts will be appropriately split into "Mocks", "Lists", and "Profiles", which should be self-explanatory.

Hoping for another good year, and hopefully this thread comes in handy for the less-informed draft followers.

August:
1st:
[List] Watch List: WHL
[List] Watch List: OHL
[List] Watch List: QMJHL
2nd:
[List] Watch List: US Leagues
3rd:
[List] Watch List: Europe
16th:
[List] Crzy's Rankings, August
31st:
[Profiles] Bloodlines

September:
14:
[Mock] Crzy's Mock, Version 1
22:
[List] Crzy's Rankings, September
24:
[Mock] ali-iggy's Mock Draft #1
[Profiles] Ryan Pulock, Brandon Wheat Kings

October:
16:
[List] Crzy's Rankings, October

November:
16:
[List] Crzy's Rankings, November

December:
16:
[List] Crzy's Rankings, December

January:
6th:
[Profiles] Crzy's Midterm Report

February:
17th:
[List] Crzy's Rankings, February

 

March:

24th:

[List] Crzy's Rankings, March

27th:

[Mock] Crzy's 1st Round Mock #1

 

April:

29th:

[Mock] Crzy's 1st Round Mock #2

 

May:

19th:

[Mock] Crzy's 1st Round Mock #3

 

June:

9th:

[Profiles] Crzy's Final Rankings, Part 1

11th:

[Profiles] Crzy's Final Rankings, Part 2

[Profiles] Why Seth Jones Will Not Go 1st Overall

16th:

[Profiles] cross16's Top 30 Rankings

[List] cross16's Top 50 Rankings

25th:

[Mock] Crzy's Final Mock Draft, Rounds 1-4



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Posted 01 August 2012 - 05:11 PM

Crzy's Preliminary Watch Lists: WHL

(note: rankings are sorted in tiers, based on that prospect's current projected levels; S ranking means that the prospect is a potential top-5 prospect, A is a potential top 15 draft pick, B is a potential first rounder, C is a potential second or third rounder, and D is a potential mid-late round pick. Names are listed by position, in alphabetical order. While all prospects have potential top-5 abilities at this point and some may be less-heralded, these rankings can be used to judge potentially noteworthy players as of right now, with all prospects having the potential to move up one or two tiers depending on their development over the next season, although it is harder for a D-ranked player to move up to an A level than it is for an A level to move up to S level. All prospects have the potential to drop down dramatically however, even S-ranked prospects [i.e. Nick Ebert would have been ranked as S-level at this point last year].)

Also, if the list seems kinda big, that's because I'm putting them where I feel they are/could potentially be as of right now. Obviously there will be guys who drop off and subsequently guys who rise and were unknowns before.


S-Level Prospects:
F Hunter Shinkaruk, Medicine Hat
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D Seth Jones, Portland
D Ryan Pulock, Brandon

A-Level Prospects:
F Curtis Lazar, Edmonton
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D Josh Morrissey, Prince Albert
D Eric Roy, Brandon

B-Level Prospects:
F Alex Forsberg, Prince George
F Morgan Klimchuk, Regina
F Connor Rankin, Tri-City
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D Madison Bowey, Kelowna
D Shea Theodore, Seattle
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G Eric Comrie, Tri-City

C-Level Prospects:
F Axel Blomqvist, Lethbridge
F Greg Chase, Calgary
F Jayden Hart, Medicine Hat
F Jackson Houck, Vancouver
F Edgars Kulda, Edmonton
F Jay Merkley, Lethbridge
F Matt Needham, Kamloops
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D Macoy Erkamps, Lethbridge
D Dillon Heatherington, Swift Current
D Adam Henry, Lethbridge
D Jesse Lees, Kelowna
D Ayrton Nikkel, Brandon
D Kade Pilton, Regina
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G Brendan Burke, Portland
G Tristan Jerry, Edmonton
G Spencer Tremblay, Moose Jaw

D-Level Prospects:
F Kohl Bauml, Everett
F Oliver Bjorkstrand, Portland
F Colby Cave, Swift Current
F Carter Hansen, Moose Jaw
F Andrew Johnson, Moose Jaw
F Geordie Maguire, Brandon
F Jonathon Martin, Kootenay
F Cory Millette, Red Deer
F Nicolas Petan, Portland
F Jakub Prochzka, Kootenay
F Chase Souto, Kamloops
F Brett Stovin, Saskatoon
F Jordan Tkatch, Prince George
F Cole Ully, Kamloops
F Jamal Watson, Lethbridge
F Chase Witala, Prince George
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D Kyle Burroughs, Regina
D Kayle Doetzel, Red Deer
D Jason Fram, Spokane
D Mason Geertsen, Edmonton
D Taylor Green, Seattle
D Jared Hauf, Seattle
D Keegan Kanzig, Victoria
D Spencer Jensen, Medicine Hat
D Marc McNulty, Prince George
D Mirco Muller, Everett
D Spencer Wand, Kootenay
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G Austin Lotz, Everett
G Alex Moodie, Saskatoon
G Teagan Sacher, Regina
G Mack Shields, Calgary
G Brett Zarowny, Prince George

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:19 PM

Crzy's Preliminary Watch Lists: OHL

(note: rankings are sorted in tiers, based on that prospect's current projected levels; S ranking means that the prospect is a potential top-5 prospect, A is a potential top 15 draft pick, B is a potential first rounder, C is a potential second or third rounder, and D is a potential mid-late round pick. Names are listed by position, in alphabetical order. While all prospects have potential top-5 abilities at this point and some may be less-heralded, these rankings can be used to judge potentially noteworthy players as of right now, with all prospects having the potential to move up one or two tiers depending on their development over the next season, although it is harder for a D-ranked player to move up to an A level than it is for an A level to move up to S level. All prospects have the potential to drop down dramatically however, even S-ranked prospects [i.e. Nick Ebert would have been ranked as S-level at this point last year].)

Also, if the list seems kinda big, that's because I'm putting them where I feel they are/could potentially be as of right now. Obviously there will be guys who drop off and subsequently guys who rise and were unknowns before.


S-Level Prospects:
F Sean Monahan, Ottawa

A-Level Prospects:
F Max Domi, London
F Kerby Rychel, Windsor

B-Level Prospects:
F Stephen Harper, Erie (cue Prime Minister jokes)
F Ryan Hartman, Plymouth
F Ryan Kujawinski, Kingston
F Sergei Tolchinsky, Sault Ste. Marie
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D Jordan Subban, Belleville
D Nikita Zadorov, London

C-Level Prospects:
F Sam Babintsev, Mississauga
F Nicholas Baptiste, Sudbury
F Jason Dickinson, Guelph
F Jake Evans, Erie
F Gilbert Gabor, Owen Sound
F Hunter Garlent, Guelph
F Bo Horvat, London
F Dominik Kubalik, Sudbury
F Sergei Kuptsov, Mississauga
F Jordan Maletta, Windsor
F Zach Nastasiuk, Owen Sound
F Stephen Nosad, Peterborough
F Brody Silk, Sudbury
F Jonatan Tanus, Peterborough
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D Chris Bigras, Owen Sound
D Darnell Nurse, Sault Ste. Marie
D Steven Varga, Peterborough
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G Alex Fotinos, Barrie
G Spencer Martin, Mississauga

D-Level Prospects:
F Andrey Alexeev, Saginaw
F Tyler Bertuzzi, Guelph
F Nick Betz, Erie
F Cole Cassels, Oshawa
F Mitchell Dempsey, Plymouth
F Jacob Harris, Sudbury
F Vladimir Ionin, Windsor
F Dominik Kahun, Sudbury
F Ondrej Kopta, Niagara
F Jimmy Lodge, Saginaw
F Nick Moutrey, Saginaw
F Justin Scott, Barrie
F Hunter Smith, Windsor
F Josh Sterk, Kitchener
F David Sysala, Niagara
F Scott Teskey, Mississauga
F Carter Verhaeghe, Niagara
F Ladislav Zikmund, Ottawa
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D Adam Bateman, Windsor
D Ben Harper, Guelph
D Artyom Kuleshov, Erie
D Patrick Murphy, Erie
D Trevor Murphy, Peterborough
D David Nemecek, Sarnia
D Mike Vlajkov, Ottawa
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G Riley Corbin, Plymouth
G Jordan DeKort, Windsor
G Michael Giugovaz, Peterborough

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:12 PM

Crzy's Preliminary Watch Lists: QMJHL

(note: rankings are sorted in tiers, based on that prospect's current projected levels; S ranking means that the prospect is a potential top-5 prospect, A is a potential top 15 draft pick, B is a potential first rounder, C is a potential second or third rounder, and D is a potential mid-late round pick. Names are listed by position, in alphabetical order. While all prospects have potential top-5 abilities at this point and some may be less-heralded, these rankings can be used to judge potentially noteworthy players as of right now, with all prospects having the potential to move up one or two tiers depending on their development over the next season, although it is harder for a D-ranked player to move up to an A level than it is for an A level to move up to S level. All prospects have the potential to drop down dramatically however, even S-ranked prospects [i.e. Nick Ebert would have been ranked as S-level at this point last year].)

Also, if the list seems kinda big, that's because I'm putting them where I feel they are/could potentially be as of right now. Obviously there will be guys who drop off and subsequently guys who rise and were unknowns before.


S-Level Prospects:
F Nathan MacKinnon, Halifax

A-Level Prospects:
F Jonathan Drouin, Halifax
F Anthony Duclair, Quebec
F Nick Sorenson, Quebec

B-Level Prospects:
F William Carrier, Cape Breton
F Adam Erne, Quebec
F Jeremy Gregoire, Chicoutimi
F Marc-Olivier Roy, Blainville-Boisbriand
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D Nikolas Brouillard, Drummondville
-
G Zach Fucale, Halifax

C-Level Prospects:
F Olivier Cooper, Saint John
F Anthony Mantha, Val D'Or
F Emile Poirier, Gatineau
F Martin Reway, Gatineau
F Brandon Shea, Quebec
F Adam Veliky, Cape Breton
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D Vladislav Lysenko, Sherbrooke
D Samuel Morin, Rimouski
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G Domenic Graham, Drummondville
G Alexandre Belanger, Rouyn-Noranda

D-Level Prospects:
F Stephen Anderson, Saint John
F Vladimir Bryukvin, Rimouski
F Marcus Cuomo, Saint John
F Laurent Dauphin, Chicoutimi
F Anthony De Luca, Rimouski
F Frederick Gauthier, Rimouski
F Raphael LaFontaine, Acadie-Bathurst
F Yan Pavel Laplante, PEI
F Mathieu Lemay, Rouyn-Noranda
F Dominik Rehak, Victoriaville
F Tomas Torok, Sherbrooke
F Adam Zboril, Acadie-Bathurst
F Patrik Zdrahal, Acadie-Bathurst
F Valentin Zykov, Baie-Comeau
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D Jonathan Diaby, Victoriaville
D Robbie Klein, Gatineau
D Jan Kostalek, Rimouski
D Matt Murphy, Val D'Or
D Jurij Repe, Saint John
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G Phillipe Cadorette, Baie-Comeau
G Drew Michals, Saint John
G Marc Olivier-Daigle, Halifax

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:31 PM

awesome lists. Thanks for doing this again and the insight you provide. It's interesting to me to see the evolution and around February I use yours as a basis for my research into who I want and think is where along with TSN, etc.

It's way to early for me to know much about specific players beyond Mackinnon. In the WHL one are the spaces in the S and A and B prospects a typo or because they are that far above the others?

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:39 PM

awesome lists. Thanks for doing this again and the insight you provide. It's interesting to me to see the evolution and around February I use yours as a basis for my research into who I want and think is where along with TSN, etc.

It's way to early for me to know much about specific players beyond Mackinnon. In the WHL one are the spaces in the S and A and B prospects a typo or because they are that far above the others?


Thanks, I appreciate the good words! As for the spaces, they're meant to separate forwards and defenders. I didn't rank the players, I just sorted them into categories and organized them by position then alphabet. Sorry if that was a little confusing, I'll change that up in a sec.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 12:18 PM

awesome, thanks Crzydrvr

and +1

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:14 PM

Crzy's Preliminary Watch Lists: USA

(note: rankings are sorted in tiers, based on that prospect's current projected levels; S ranking means that the prospect is a potential top-5 prospect, A is a potential top 15 draft pick, B is a potential first rounder, C is a potential second or third rounder, and D is a potential mid-late round pick. Names are listed by position, in alphabetical order. While all prospects have potential top-5 abilities at this point and some may be less-heralded, these rankings can be used to judge potentially noteworthy players as of right now, with all prospects having the potential to move up one or two tiers depending on their development over the next season, although it is harder for a D-ranked player to move up to an A level than it is for an A level to move up to S level. All prospects have the potential to drop down dramatically however, even S-ranked prospects [i.e. Nick Ebert would have been ranked as S-level at this point last year].)

Also, if the list seems kinda big, that's because I'm putting them where I feel they are/could potentially be as of right now. Obviously there will be guys who drop off and subsequently guys who rise and were unknowns before.


S-Level Prospects:
N/A [:(]

A-Level Prospects:
F J.T. Compher, USA-U17s

B-Level Prospects:
F Taylor Cammarata, Waterloo
F Hudson Fasching, USA-U17s
F Luke Johnson, Lincoln
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D Will Butcher, USA-U17s

C-Level Prospects:
F Evan Allen, USA-U17s
F Max Becker, Shattuck St. Mary's (HS-MINN)
F Connor Hurley, Muskegon
F Ryan Lomberg, Muskegon
F Tyler Motte, USA-U17s
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D Michael Downing, Dubuque
D Ian McCoshen, Waterloo
D Steven Santini, USA-U17s
D Keaton Thompson, USA-U17s

D-Level Prospects:
F Jake Ahlgren, Indiana
F Thomas Ebbing, Chicago
F Matt Gaudreau, Omaha
F John Hayden, USA-U17s
F Blake Heinrich, Hill-Murray (HS-MINN)
F Tyler Kelleher, USA-U17s
F Vinny Lettieri, Lincoln
F Thomas Lindstrom, Breck (HS-MINN)
F Anthony Louis, USA-U17s
F Michael McCarron, USA-U17s
F Trevor Moore, Tri-City
F Ross Olsson, Lincoln
F Alex Roos, Chicago
F Luke Voltin, Des Moines
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D Anthony Florentino, Providence (NCAA)
D Chris Forney, Thief River (HS-MINN)
D Michael Kapla, Sioux City
D Teemu Kivihalme, Burnsville (HS-MINN)
D Clint Lewis, USA-U17s
D Charlie Pelnik, Fargo
D Zack Pittman, Lincoln
D Scott Savage, USA-U17s
D Alex Smith, Indiana
D Tommy Vannelli, Minnetonka (HS-MINN)
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G Eamon McAdam, Waterloo
G Hunter Miska, USA-U17s
G Chris Nell, Chicago

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 10:59 PM

Never been so excited for a draft. Looks like a 2003 where we will see quite a few "big names" emerge.

Mohanan
Shinkurak (Calgary kid)
MacKinnon
Jones
Pulock
Lazar
Drouin
Hagg
Barakov
Domi

etc....

Thanks for making this thread! (again).

I'll be viewing on a regular basis.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 04:24 PM

Crzy's Preliminary Watch Lists: Europe

(note: rankings are sorted in tiers, based on that prospect's current projected levels; S ranking means that the prospect is a potential top-5 prospect, A is a potential top 15 draft pick, B is a potential first rounder, C is a potential second or third rounder, and D is a potential mid-late round pick. Names are listed by position, in alphabetical order. While all prospects have potential top-5 abilities at this point and some may be less-heralded, these rankings can be used to judge potentially noteworthy players as of right now, with all prospects having the potential to move up one or two tiers depending on their development over the next season, although it is harder for a D-ranked player to move up to an A level than it is for an A level to move up to S level. All prospects have the potential to drop down dramatically however, even S-ranked prospects [i.e. Nick Ebert would have been ranked as S-level at this point last year].)

Also, if the list seems kinda big, that's because I'm putting them where I feel they are/could potentially be as of right now. Obviously there will be guys who drop off and subsequently guys who rise and were unknowns before.


S-Level Prospects:
C Alexander Barkov, Tappara[FIN]
C Elias Lindholm, Brynas[SWE]

A-Level Prospects:
F Pavel Buchnevich, Cherepovets[RUS]
F André Burakovsky, Malmo[SWE]
F Valeri Nichushkin, Chelyabinsk[RUS]
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D Rasmus Ristolainen, TPS[FIN]

B-Level Prospects:
F Artturi Lehkonen, KalPa[FIN]
F Gustav Possler, MoDo[SWE]
F Lucas Wallmark, Skelleftea[SWE]
F Bogdan Yakimov, Reaktor[RUS]
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D Robert Hagg, MoDo[SWE]

C-Level Prospects:
F Jacob de la Rose, Leksand[SWE]
F Jusso Ikonen, Blues[FIN]
F Eetu Koivistoinen, Blues[FIN]
F Tobias Liljendahl, Djurgardens[SWE]
F Viktor Crus-Rydberg, Linkoping[SWE]
F Saku Salminen, Jokerit[FIN]
F Markus Soberg, Frolunda[SWE][note: is NOR-born]
F Alexander Wennberg, Djurgardens[SWE]
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D Linus Arnesson, Djurgardens[SWE]
D Anton Cedarholm, Rogle[SWE]
D Pavel Koledov, Yaroslavl[RUS]
D Arvid Lundberg, Skelleftea[SWE]
D Atte Makinen, Tappara[FIN]
D William Westlund, Farjestad[SWE]
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G Andrei Filonenko, CSKA[RUS]
G Marcus Hogberg, Linkoping[SWE]
G Ville Husso, HIFK[FIN]

D-Level Prospects:
F Joose Antonen, Ilves[FIN]
F Adam Brodecki, Brynas[SWE]
F Peter Cehlarik, Lulea[SWE][note: is SVK-born]
F Marko Dano, Dukla Trencin[SVK]
F Mads Eller, Frolunda[SWE][note: is DEN-born]
F Rasmus Fyrpihl, Orebro[SWE]
F Fabian Gunnarsson, Farjestad[SWE]
F Alexander Henriksson, Farjestad[SWE]
F Mikael Johansson, Vaxjo[SWE]
F Andrea Johnson, Frolunda[SWE]
F Maxim Mamin, CSKA[RUS]
F Victor Ohman, MoDo[SWE]
F Matej Paulovic, Farjestad[SWE][note: is SVK-born]
F Robin Soderqvist, Frolunda[SWE]
F Viktor Shakhvorostov, Kazan[RUS]
F Dmitri Vorobyov, Chekhov[RUS]
F Adam Winborg, AIK[SWE]
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D Gustav Backstrom, MoDo[SWE]
D Kevin Ekman-Larsson, Leksand[SWE]
D Mathias Goransson, Brynas[SWE]
D Amil Krupic, Rogle[SWE]
D Mikke Levo, Ilves[FIN]
D Rushan Rafikov, Yaroslavl[RUS]
D Tommy Stenqvist, Timra[SWE]
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G Janne Juvonen, Lahti[FIN]
G Richard Mutze-Hvitman, Djurgardens[SWE]
G William Ohman, MoDo[SWE]
G Samuel Ward, Lulea[SWE]

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 01:52 PM

Crzy's Top 100: August 16th, 2012

note: not a mock

1.(1) [F]Nathan MacKinnon, Halifax(QMJHL)
2.(2) [D]Ryan Pulock, Brandon(WHL)
3.(4) [C]Sean Monahan, Ottawa(OHL)
4.(3) [F]Elias Lindholm, Brynas(SEL)
5.(5) [F]Alexander Barkov, Tappara(SM-L)
6.(7) [D]Seth Jones, USA U-18s(USHL)
7.(6) [W]Hunter Shinkaruk, Medicine Hat(WHL)
8.(8) [W]Jonathan Drouin, Halifax(QMJHL)
9.(13) [W]André Burakovsky, Malmo(ASK)
10.(16) [F]Curtis Lazar, Edmonton(WHL)
11.(9) [D]Eric Roy, Brandon(WHL)
12.(11) [D]Rasmus Ristolainen, TPS(SM-L)
13.(10) [W]Anthony Duclair, Quebec(QMJHL)
14.(12) [F]JT Compher, USA-U17s(USNTDP)
15.(17) [D]Josh Morrissey, Prince Albert(WHL)
16.(53) [F]Pavel Buchnevich, Cherepovets(MHL)
17.(14) [D]Will Butcher, USA-U17s(USNTDP)
18.(22) [F]Kerby Rychel, Windsor(OHL)
19.(19) [C]Lucas Wallmark, Skelleftea(SWE-J20)
20.(23) [D]Shea Theodore, Seattle(WHL)
21.(24) [F]Nick Sorenson, Quebec(QMJHL)
22.(51) [F]Ryan Hartman, Plymouth(OHL)
23.(15) [C]Taylor Cammarata, Waterloo(USHL)
24.(26) [W]Gustav Possler, MoDo(SEL)
25.(25) [C]William Carrier, Cape Breton(QMJHL)
26.(37) [D]Madison Bowey, Kelowna(WHL)
27.(27) [C]Luke Johnson, Lincoln(USHL)
28.(20) [W]Adam Erne, Quebec(QMJHL)
29.(21) [C]Alex Forsberg, Prince George(WHL)
30.(33) [C]Connor Rankin, Tri-City(WHL)
31.(28) [G]Zachary Fucale, Halifax(QMJHL)
32.(30) [F]Max Domi, London(OHL)
33.(29) [F]Tyler Motte, USA-U17s(USNTDP)
34.(31) [W]Artturi Lehkonen, TPS(FIN-JrA)
35.(40) [W]Ryan Kujawinski, Kingston(OHL)
36.(35) [D]Nikolas Brouillard, Drummondville(QMJHL)
37.(38) [D]Robert Hagg, MoDo(SWE-J20)
38.(34) [F]Hudson Fasching, USA-U18s(USHL)
39.(45) [W]Stephen Harper, Erie(OHL)
40.(39) [W]Jonatan Tanus, Peterborough(OHL)
41.(32) [W]Sergei Tolchinsky, Sault Ste. Marie(OHL)
42.(55) [F]Jason Dickinson, Guelph(OHL)
43.(59) [F]Anthony Mantha, Val D'Or(QMJHL)
44.(47) [F]Evan Allen, USA-U17s(USNTDP)
45.(44) [W]Morgan Klimchuk, Regina(WHL)
46.(43) [G]Eric Comrie, Tri-City(WHL)
47.(56) [D]Nikita Zadorov, London(OHL)
48.(54) [F]Greg Chase, Calgary(WHL)
49.(36) [W]Marc-Olivier Roy, Blainville-Boisbriand(QMJHL)
50.(19) [F]Valeri Nichushkin, Chelyabinsk(MHL)
51.(50) [F]Jacob de la Rose, Leksand(ASK)
52.(52) [F]Bogdan Yakimov, Reaktor(MHL)
53.(42) [D]Jordan Subban, Belleville(OHL)
54.(58) [D]Samuel Morin, Rimouski(QMJHL)
55.(48) [F]Bo Horvat, London(OHL)
56.(46) [W]Matt Needham, Kamloops(WHL)
57.(62) [D]Keaton Thompson, USA-U18s(USNTDP)
58.(49) [F]Hunter Garlent, Guelph(OHL)
59.(67) [F]Jeremy Gregoire, Chicoutimi(QMJHL)
60.(NR) [G]Andrei Filonenko, CSKA(MHL)
61.(41) [F]Juuso Ikonen, Blues (FIN-JrA)
62.(65) [W]Nicholas Baptiste, Sudbury(OHL)
63.(61) [F]Emile Poirier, Gatineau(QMJHL)
64.(66) [W]Jayden Hart, Medicine Hat(WHL)
65.(57) [D]Steven Santini, USA-U18s(USNTDP)
66.(63) [D]Ayrton Nikkel, Brandon(WHL)
67.(64) [F]Stephen Nosad, Peterborough(OHL)
68.(69) [G]Alexandre Belanger, Rouyn-Noranda(QMJHL)
69.(71) [W]Sergei Kuptsov, Mississauga(OHL)
70.(76) [F]Brody Silk, Sudbury(OHL)
71.(NR) [F]Sam Babintsev, Mississauga(OHL)
72.(70) [F]Brandon Shea, Quebec(QMJHL)
73.(75) [F]Connor Hurley, Muskegon(USHL)
74.(72) [F]Jay Merkley, Lethbridge(WHL)
75.(74) [F]Olivier Cooper, Saint John(QMJHL)
76.(73) [F]Ryan Lomberg, Muskegon(USHL)
77.(87) [F]Nicolas Petan, Portland(WHL)
78.(81) [F]Jordan Maletta, Windsor(OHL)
79.(68) [G]Ville Husso, HIFK(SM-L)
80.(84) [W]Jackson Houck, Vancouver(WHL)
81.(77) [D]Macoy Erkamps, Lethbridge(WHL)
82.(78) [F]Jake Evans, Erie(OHL)
83.(82) [F]Cole Cassels, Oshawa(OHL)
84.(NR) [F]Yan Pavel Laplante, PEI(QMJHL)
85.(83) [D]Michael Downing, Dubuque(USHL)
86.(90) [D]Anton Cedarholm, Rogle(SWE-U20)
87.(91) [D]Mason Geertsen, Edmonton(WHL)
88.(85) [F]Zach Nastasiuk, Owen Sound(OHL)
89.(86) [G]Marcus Hogberg, Linkoping(SWE-U20)
90.(88) [D]Darnell Nurse, Sault Ste. Marie(OHL)
91.(89) [D]Kade Pilton, Victoria(WHL)
92.(92) [W]Mitchell Dempsey, Plymouth(OHL)
93.(NR) [G]Spencer Tremblay, Moose Jaw(WHL)
94.(79) [D]Ian McCoshen, Waterloo(USHL)
95.(94) [D]Atte Makinen, Tappara(FIN-JrA)
96.(98) [F]Max Becker, Shattuck St. Mary's(HS-MINN)
97.(99) [F]Thomas Lindstrom, Breck(HS-MINN)
98.(NR) [F]Saku Salminen, Jokerit(SM-L)
99.(NR) [D]Chris Bigras, Owen Sound(OHL)
100.(93) [G]Domenic Graham, Drummondville(QMJHL)

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 07:58 PM

Oops, wrong username.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 07:59 PM

Love the work that you've done Crazy. Nice to have an early view of the new and upcoming talent.

One of a few things I am positive about in this looming Lockout year is the fact that the hockey flavor of the 2012-2013 year will be the Major Jr. Leagues. Money and attention from NHL poverty stricken fans will pour into these small time markets. (Giants games here in Vancouver will be sold out and almost everyone at the games will give buying a jersey a second thought. I'd bet Bettman's annual bonus on that).

Secondly, markets such as NCAA Hockey will see a spike in coverage and assessments by the big named Analysts as most of the U.S. colleges are televised by huge networks.(namely NBC). A bigger spotlight for the upcoming talents and the NHL prospects on these rosters.

Thirdly, the World Jr's will be VERY competitive this next year between countries as the stigma of having our beloved NHL season ripped from our cold weathered hands will still sting. (Be prepared for heightened rivalries between countrymen...NHL.com threads will be the bloodied battlefield. I can't wait :D )

I personally don't want a Lockout. It doesn't help anyone, the owners, the players, and especially the Fans. It will put people out of work who rely on these service jobs, it will bore some people to death, and it really does throw off the momentum of most franchises.

And what about the Zamboni drivers?!?! They have feelings you know! :(

That being said, there is other venues to focus on; a major uplift for the up and coming talents in the various leagues as it gives them a chance to shine even brighter. I find comfort in the fact that the game of hockey doesn't just end with the NHL.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 04:38 PM

Profiles: Bloodlines

NHL scouts love the guy with a former 134th overall pick and ECHLer for a second cousin twice-removed. There are prospects with fantastic bloodlines who prove that they learned from their famous relatives (the Sutter lineage immediately comes to mind, but also families like the Folignos). And then there are those who fail to live up to the expectations of being drafted based on name (woe is Jared Staal, the only Staal brother who will most assuredly NOT play in the NHL this season).

Here are some guys who look like they have a great shot at proving that their birthrights may be well-placed and carrying their famous bloodlines:

Kerby Rychel: Son of Windsor general manager Warren Rychel, Kerby is a scoring forward. He's not a pure sniper, or a pure speedster, nor does he pull a Holmstrom and crash the net with impunity. But he gets the job done, and a knack for scoring isn't something that comes along easily. Consensus says that he'll be drafted anywhere from 10-25 if the draft were done right now, and I'd agree with that assessment. With a strong year though, Kerby could potentially rise up even higher than that, especially in a weak OHL crop of draftees.

Max Domi: Son of the pitbull himself, Max possesses a lot of skill in a economically-friendly package. A lot of people are probably expecting something like "has more skill than Tie ever did" but that isn't quite true considering Tie was a pretty good player too back in his OHL days. Max does however play a more slick, skill-oriented game and while he probably won't bash in someone's brains that hard anytime soon, he's got a real good chance to best his old man's NHL scoring totals. General consensus says anywhere from top ten to 20, but with his size I'm thinking more likely to be either a late first-rounder or a second rounder depending on how his year goes.

Elias Lindholm: Elias comes from a relatively big Swedish hockey family. His dad spent 18 games with the LA Kings, his brother currently plies his trade in the Swedish 1st Division, and his cousin is a Red Wings prospect (darn you, Hakan Andersson!) by the name of Calle Jarnkrok. So he's plenty exposed to the sport. He's probably one-upped all of them though; at the age of 17, he may already be the most skilled player of the bunch. Very similar player to one Henrik Zetterberg, he provides a mix of offensive ability with solid two-way play. Right now he's projected to be anywhere from 10th to even out of the first round, but I love his game and I'm thinking he pulls a Backstrom and jumps into that top tier of players by season's end.


Some guys benefit from having someone to lean on, a guy who's been there and done that. Others, break from the pressure of having to live up to their family names, or were just not very good and were drafted more on their name than what they've shown on the ice. Here are some guys who look to be more of the latter category until proven otherwise:

Kevin Ekman-Larsson: Kevin's a severe case of "being born in a major Swedish sports family tree". His big bro looks like an NHL star-in-the-making. His father, his uncle, his cousins, his grandfather, heck, even his gramp's brothers all played professional hockey at some point. His cousin, she's a soccer player. Talk about active living. No offense to Kevin, because he actually looked like he was a major player just like his brother while he played in the TV-Pucken and J-18 Elit as a 16 year old. But despite some decent skill, Kevin's size and production don't match up to a draft caliber prospect. He's likely to be drafted based on the aforementioned skill and name as long as he shows some form of improvement, but it'll likely be over a guy who probably deserves the selection more than he does.

Tyler Bertuzzi: As his name suggests, Tyler is one mean dude. Guess who his uncle is. Tyler plays like Tie Domi without the surprisingly good skating that Tie had. Unfortunately, most teams don't carry 5'9" enforcers and Tyler doesn't have the skill to be a scoring player at the NHL level. If he were 6-7 inches taller he'd probably be touted as another (maybe even better) Tom Wilson, but he isn't and even though he'll be given a shot somewhere (especially after he puts up some numbers this year in the likely range of 40 or so points) he's probably not going to advance past the minors.

Matt Gaudreau: This name ought to be familiar to Flames fans. I think there was a thread on him in this forum somewhere too. The younger bro of whizkid Johnny, Matt is a similarly styled player as his brother and already has the advantage of being bigger than him at 5'9". Unfortunately, while Johnny makes up for his 5'8" frame with breakaway speed and agility, nifty hands and a "shoot-to-score" mentality, Matt lacks that similar high-end difference-making ability to his game. Coupled with the fact that he's still ONLY 5'9" and he joins a long list of bantam-sized USHLers with talent in the 2013 draft. And personally, I don't think he's good enough to beat out guys like Anthony Louis and Tyler Kelleher; there's only so many spots in the draft each year open to that small guy with skill.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 12:07 PM

Profiles: Bloodlines

NHL scouts love the guy with a former 134th overall pick and ECHLer for a second cousin twice-removed. There are prospects with fantastic bloodlines who prove that they learned from their famous relatives (the Sutter lineage immediately comes to mind, but also families like the Folignos). And then there are those who fail to live up to the expectations of being drafted based on name (woe is Jared Staal, the only Staal brother who will most assuredly NOT play in the NHL this season).

Here are some guys who look like they have a great shot at proving that their birthrights may be well-placed and carrying their famous bloodlines:

Kerby Rychel: Son of Windsor general manager Warren Rychel, Kerby is a scoring forward. He's not a pure sniper, or a pure speedster, nor does he pull a Holmstrom and crash the net with impunity. But he gets the job done, and a knack for scoring isn't something that comes along easily. Consensus says that he'll be drafted anywhere from 10-25 if the draft were done right now, and I'd agree with that assessment. With a strong year though, Kerby could potentially rise up even higher than that, especially in a weak OHL crop of draftees.

Max Domi: Son of the pitbull himself, Max possesses a lot of skill in a economically-friendly package. A lot of people are probably expecting something like "has more skill than Tie ever did" but that isn't quite true considering Tie was a pretty good player too back in his OHL days. Max does however play a more slick, skill-oriented game and while he probably won't bash in someone's brains that hard anytime soon, he's got a real good chance to best his old man's NHL scoring totals. General consensus says anywhere from top ten to 20, but with his size I'm thinking more likely to be either a late first-rounder or a second rounder depending on how his year goes.

Elias Lindholm: Elias comes from a relatively big Swedish hockey family. His dad spent 18 games with the LA Kings, his brother currently plies his trade in the Swedish 1st Division, and his cousin is a Red Wings prospect (darn you, Hakan Andersson!) by the name of Calle Jarnkrok. So he's plenty exposed to the sport. He's probably one-upped all of them though; at the age of 17, he may already be the most skilled player of the bunch. Very similar player to one Henrik Zetterberg, he provides a mix of offensive ability with solid two-way play. Right now he's projected to be anywhere from 10th to even out of the first round, but I love his game and I'm thinking he pulls a Backstrom and jumps into that top tier of players by season's end.


Some guys benefit from having someone to lean on, a guy who's been there and done that. Others, break from the pressure of having to live up to their family names, or were just not very good and were drafted more on their name than what they've shown on the ice. Here are some guys who look to be more of the latter category until proven otherwise:


These guys seem to have some promise. Please pass the list on to the scouting staff. ^_^
The Flames do seem to have a penchant for drafting players based on name; some have promise and others nada.

Depending on the others in the draft class, Rychel may be a good bet. If he goes in the top 5, I'm sure the Oilers will be in on him. :lol:

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 09:42 PM

2013 NHL Mock Draft: Version 1!

It's rather early, not to mention the NHL standings are currently nonexistent, but here's the year's first mock draft. I'll be pretty busy for the next little while so my monthly rankings are currently on hold, and this is my way of making it up to you guys. Draft order is decided through the Bodog Stanley Cup Odds, with any ties broken through my personal standing predictions :P.

Just to re-iterate, these are based on consensus and not my opinion. If you are unable to grasp the concept of being able to separate the two, I apologize in advance for your below-average IQ. If you are unable to grasp the concept of large words such as "consensus" and "opinion", then you are either A]a caveman (do not worry my friend, I'm sure the latest Apple time machine will be available soon enough) or B]a domesticated animal whose owner finds it amusing to put his cat in front of a laptop, take a picture, and post it on "ICanHazCheezburger".com. In which case I will happily supply a list of anti-Animal Cruelty websites and organizations upon request.

[Dated 14/09/12]

1. CBJ: Nathan MacKinnon: I'm sure this one may have shocked you all. /s
2. NYI: Seth Jones: This one too. Easily the 1B to MacKinnon's 1A right now.
3. WPG: Alexander Barkov: Not sure why the Jets are getting all the hate, but I'll take it.
4. DAL: Sean Monahan: Another B to Barkov's A. For good reason too.
5. CGY: Ryan Pulock: Screw you too Bodog. Pulock is basically icing on a very depressing cake.
6. COL: Hunter Shinkaruk: A true "hyper-lethal vector" on offense; maybe in the lockerroom too.
7. ANA: Elias Lindholm: Slick Swedes are in style in California.
8. MTL: Jonathan Drouin: Quebec native, offensive dynamo....why not?
9. PHX: Curtis Lazar: If this isn't an immediate match made in heaven, then....
10. OTT: Anthony Duclair: Speedy scoring winger who plays best with a center who can control the game i.e. Spezza.
11. FLO: Rasmus Ristolainen: Possibly the best draft-eligible Finnish blueliner in the past 10 years.
12. TOR: Kerby Rychel: Windsor scoring forward will get a chance to be the top dog this year.
13. EDM: Robert Hagg: Second Swede goes to a team where he can get the development time he needs.
14. TBL: Valeri Nichushkin: Yzerman sure gets bang for his buck out of his Russian scouts.
15. NJD: André Burakovsky: Top scoring winger, decent two-way play, offensively skilled, Swedish.
16. BUF: Josh Morrissey: Slick defender is slick. And Buffalo has no big need so why not.
17. NSH: J.T. Compher: Nashville prides on being a lunchbucket team; Compher brings offensive dash with grit.
18. WSH: Ryan Kujawinski: A darkhorse candidate; scouts love him.
19. CAR: Nikita Zadorov: Big two-way Russian blueliner who plays in hte OHL.
20. SJS: Eric Roy: Offensive defenseman could go either way this season.
21. MIN: Hudson Fasching: Minny's prospect pool is among the best; they can go for the sleeper pick.
22. STL: Will Butcher: Another defenseman in the system for Hitchcock to work with.
23. BOS: Shea Theodore: Offensive defenseman, may slide into Boston's up-tempo and aggressive style of play.
24. DET: Madison Bowey: Another WHL defender. Imagine that.
25. CHI: Zach Fucale: Goalie drops a little, but Chicago will take him easily.
26. PHI: Connor Rankin: Big center is what Philly already has, but plenty of truculence is a good thing for them.
27. CBJ(LAK): Lucas Wallmark: Skilled Swede is right up the Jackets' alley.
28. CBJ(NYR): Max Domi: A lot of skill in an economically friendly package.
29. VAN: Jacob de la Rose: Another big body to finish off the Bucks' big and Swedish collections.
30. PIT: Adam Erne: Still trying to fill out Crosby's line.

Once again, sorry for the list delays. I'll try and find time to get them up before the end of the month but no guarantees. Busy busy busy....and my own ability to procrastinate on even the tiniest things doesn't help matters much.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 02:55 PM

Crzy's Belated Top 100: September 22nd, 2012

(Hot means a player is trending upwards, Cold means a player hasn't impressed. Nothing means a player has been playing up to standards with very little deviation.)

note: not a mock

1.(1) [F]Nathan MacKinnon, Halifax(QMJHL)
2.(2) [D]Ryan Pulock, Brandon(WHL)
3.(3) [C]Sean Monahan, Ottawa(OHL)
4.(5) [F]Alexander Barkov, Tappara(SM-L)[Hot]
5.(4) [F]Elias Lindholm, Brynas(SEL)
6.(6) [D]Seth Jones, USA U-18s(USHL)
7.(8) [W]Jonathan Drouin, Halifax(QMJHL)
8.(7) [W]Hunter Shinkaruk, Medicine Hat(WHL)[Cold]
9.(9) [W]André Burakovsky, Malmo(ASK)[Cold]
10.(12) [D]Rasmus Ristolainen, TPS(SM-L)
11.(13) [W]Anthony Duclair, Quebec(QMJHL)[Hot]
12.(10) [F]Curtis Lazar, Edmonton(WHL)
13.(11) [D]Eric Roy, Brandon(WHL)
14.(15) [D]Josh Morrissey, Prince Albert(WHL)
15.(21) [F]Nick Sorenson, Quebec(QMJHL)
16.(20) [D]Shea Theodore, Seattle(WHL)
17.(19) [C]Lucas Wallmark, Skelleftea(SWE-J20)[Hot]
18.(16) [F]Pavel Buchnevich, Cherepovets(MHL)
19.(22) [F]Ryan Hartman, Plymouth(OHL)
20.(14) [F]JT Compher, USA-U17s(USNTDP)
21.(18) [F]Kerby Rychel, Windsor(OHL)
22.(25) [C]William Carrier, Cape Breton(QMJHL)
23.(26) [D]Madison Bowey, Kelowna(WHL)
24.(17) [D]Will Butcher, USA-U17s(USNTDP)
25.(27) [C]Luke Johnson, Lincoln(USHL)
26.(34) [W]Artturi Lehkonen, KalPa(SM-L)[Hot]
27.(32) [F]Max Domi, London(OHL)
28.(28) [W]Adam Erne, Quebec(QMJHL)
29.(47) [D]Nikita Zadorov, London(OHL)
30.(30) [C]Connor Rankin, Tri-City(WHL)
31.(31) [G]Zachary Fucale, Halifax(QMJHL)
32.(23) [C]Taylor Cammarata, Waterloo(USHL)
33.(24) [W]Gustav Possler, MoDo(SEL)
34.(29) [C]Alex Forsberg, Prince George(WHL)
35.(36) [D]Nikolas Brouillard, Drummondville(QMJHL)
36.(33) [F]Tyler Motte, USA-U17s(USNTDP)
37.(37) [D]Robert Hagg, MoDo(SWE-J20)
38.(42) [F]Jason Dickinson, Guelph(OHL)
39.(35) [W]Ryan Kujawinski, Kingston(OHL)
40.(38) [F]Hudson Fasching, USA-U18s(USHL)
41.(41) [W]Sergei Tolchinsky, Sault Ste. Marie(OHL)
42.(51) [F]Jacob de la Rose, Leksand(ASK)
43.(43) [F]Anthony Mantha, Val D'Or(QMJHL)
44.(49) [W]Marc-Olivier Roy, Blainville-Boisbriand(QMJHL)
45.(45) [W]Morgan Klimchuk, Regina(WHL)
46.(48) [F]Greg Chase, Calgary(WHL)
47.(46) [G]Eric Comrie, Tri-City(WHL)
48.(39) [W]Stephen Harper, Erie(OHL)
49.(44) [F]Evan Allen, USA-U17s(USNTDP)
50.(61) [F]Juuso Ikonen, Blues (FIN-JrA)
51.(54) [D]Samuel Morin, Rimouski(QMJHL)
52.(56) [W]Matt Needham, Kamloops(WHL)
53.(53) [D]Jordan Subban, Belleville(OHL)
54.(55) [F]Bo Horvat, London(OHL)
55.(50) [F]Valeri Nichushkin, Chelyabinsk(MHL)
56.(64) [W]Jayden Hart, Medicine Hat(WHL)
57.(58) [F]Hunter Garlent, Guelph(OHL)
58.(80) [W]Jackson Houck, Vancouver(WHL)
59.(52) [F]Bogdan Yakimov, Reaktor(MHL)
60.(57) [D]Keaton Thompson, USA-U18s(USNTDP)
61.(40) [W]Jonatan Tanus, Peterborough(OHL)[Cold]
62.(59) [F]Jeremy Gregoire, Chicoutimi(QMJHL)
63.(60) [G]Andrei Filonenko, CSKA(MHL)
64.(62) [W]Nicholas Baptiste, Sudbury(OHL)
65.(63) [F]Emile Poirier, Gatineau(QMJHL)
66.(65) [D]Steven Santini, USA-U18s(USNTDP)
67.(66) [D]Ayrton Nikkel, Brandon(WHL)
68.(67) [F]Stephen Nosad, Peterborough(OHL)
69.(68) [G]Alexandre Belanger, Rouyn-Noranda(QMJHL)
70.(69) [W]Sergei Kuptsov, Mississauga(OHL)
71.(77) [F]Nicolas Petan, Portland(WHL)
72.(70) [F]Brody Silk, Sudbury(OHL)
73.(72) [F]Brandon Shea, Quebec(QMJHL)
74.(73) [F]Connor Hurley, Muskegon(USHL)
75.(72) [F]Jay Merkley, Lethbridge(WHL)
76.(74) [F]Olivier Cooper, Saint John(QMJHL)
77.(76) [F]Ryan Lomberg, Muskegon(USHL)
78.(78) [F]Jordan Maletta, Windsor(OHL)
79.(79) [G]Ville Husso, HIFK(SM-L)
80.(81) [D]Macoy Erkamps, Lethbridge(WHL)
81.(90) [D]Darnell Nurse, Sault Ste. Marie(OHL)[Hot]
82.(84) [F]Yan Pavel Laplante, PEI(QMJHL)
83.(98) [F]Saku Salminen, Jokerit(SM-L)
84.(83) [F]Cole Cassels, Oshawa(OHL)
85.(71) [F]Sam Babintsev, Mississauga(OHL)
86.(82) [F]Jake Evans, Erie(OHL)
87.(85) [D]Michael Downing, Dubuque(USHL)
88.(86) [D]Anton Cedarholm, Rogle(SWE-U20)
89.(99) [D]Chris Bigras, Owen Sound(OHL)
90.(87) [D]Mason Geertsen, Edmonton(WHL)
91.(88) [F]Zach Nastasiuk, Owen Sound(OHL)
92.(89) [G]Marcus Hogberg, Linkoping(SWE-U20)
93.(91) [D]Kade Pilton, Victoria(WHL)
94.(92) [W]Mitchell Dempsey, Plymouth(OHL)
95.(NR) [W] Valentin Zykov, Baie-Comeau(QMJHL)
96.(93) [G]Spencer Tremblay, Moose Jaw(WHL)
97.(94) [D]Ian McCoshen, Waterloo(USHL)
98.(95) [D]Atte Makinen, Tappara(FIN-JrA)
99.(96) [F]Max Becker, Shattuck St. Mary's(HS-MINN)
100.(NR) [F]Jamal Watson, Lethbridge(WHL)

Off the List:

NR.(97) [F]Thomas Lindstrom, Breck(HS-MINN)
NR.(100) [G]Domenic Graham, Drummondville(QMJHL)

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 05:42 PM

Why do you have seth jones ranked so low?

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 07:43 PM

Why do you have seth jones ranked so low?


Personal preference. I don't think he's bad, rather I just think there are 5 guys better than he is right now. He's a great all-around guy and he occasionally has those great moments where he looks like he's a future Hall-of-Famer, but in a draft this deep the same could be said of a lot of the top 10 guys.

He's still right up there and if he can show me something more in the Dub (especially given that now I have more opportunities to view him) he'll move up. Simple as that.

Read into it what you will. All it means is that if I were given a top 5 pick I'd use it on someone else other than Seth Jones. Lots of great players available that high.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 10:47 PM

Personal preference. I don't think he's bad, rather I just think there are 5 guys better than he is right now. He's a great all-around guy and he occasionally has those great moments where he looks like he's a future Hall-of-Famer, but in a draft this deep the same could be said of a lot of the top 10 guys.

He's still right up there and if he can show me something more in the Dub (especially given that now I have more opportunities to view him) he'll move up. Simple as that.

Read into it what you will. All it means is that if I were given a top 5 pick I'd use it on someone else other than Seth Jones. Lots of great players available that high.

interesting. You know better then me, I was just curious. I take it you dont see him much though?