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Crzydrvr

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those Swedish and Finnish rosters are for an exhibition tournament with the US

I know, but they're the only ones listed thus far. :lol: What can a guy do?

I'll post up actual ones when they come out, but for now this is a good measurement as long as you take out the underagers and overagers.

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I know, but they're the only ones listed thus far. :lol: What can a guy do?

I'll post up actual ones when they come out, but for now this is a good measurement as long as you take out the underagers and overagers.

I would suggest just making a note of it in the OP is all or people would freak out thinking Granlund was left off the Finn roster like in the thread in the Flames section.

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After looking over some of the lesser known prospects (mostly residing in Europe) I'm putting together my summer predictions for the WJC rosters.

Red = Flames Property

Navy = Oilers Property

Blue = Leafs Property

Purple = Jets Property

Pink = Habs Property (:P)

Fade Blue = Canucks Property

Mahogany = Sens Property

Canada:

Philip Danault-Mark Scheifele-Ryan Strome

Michael St. Croix-Boone Jenner-Ty Rattie

Olivier Archambault-Nick Cousins-Nathan MacKinnon

Adam Lowry-Mark McNeill-Colton Sissons

Sean Monahan

Scott Harrington-Ryan Murphy

Morgan Rielly-Cody Ceci

Ryan Sproul-Slater Koekkoek

Mathew Dumba, Ryan Pulock

Malcolm Subban-Laurent Broisoit

USA:

Reid Boucher-Alex Galchenyuk-Stefan Noesen

John Gaudreau-J.T. Miller-Nicolas Kerdiles

Mario Lucia-Vince Trocheck-Brian Hart

Stefan Matteau-Sean Kuraly-Tyler Biggs

Henrik Samuelsson

Jacob Trouba-Jake McCabe

Brady Skjei-Seth Jones

Connor Murphy-Andy Welinski

Patrick Sieloff

John Gibson-Anthony Stolarz-Jon Gillies

FIN:

Miikka Salomaki-Markus Granlund-Joel Armia

Henri Ikonen-Teuvo Teravainen-Toni Kallela

Miro Aaltonen-Aleksander Barkov-Teemu Henritius

Markus Hannikainen-Kalle Kossila-Sami Salminen

Topi Nattinen, Robert Leino

Olli Maatta-Ville Pokka

Rasmus Ristolainen-Mikko Vainonen

Esa Lindell-Joonas Valkonen

Mikko Lehtonen

Christopher Gibson-Samu Perhonen

SWE:

Filip Forsberg-Mika Zibanejad-Sebastian Collberg

Emil Molin-William Karlsson-Pontus Aberg

Jeremy Boyce Rotevall-Victor Rask-Rickard Rakell

Emil Lundberg-David Karlsson-Max Gortz

Joachim Nermark

Jonas Brodin-Oscar Klefbom

Ludvig Bystrom-Mikael Wikstrand

Tom Nilsson-Rasmus Bengtsson

Christian Djoos

Oscar Dansk-Niklas Lundstrom-Johan Mattsson

RUS:

Anton Slepyshev-Alexander Khokhlachev-Nikita Kucherov

Nikolai Prokhorkin-Vladislav Namestnikov-Yaroslav Kosov

Daniil Zharkov-Pavel Buchnevich-Maxim Shalunov

Alexander Delnov-Vyacheslav Osnovin-Denis Kamaev

Sergei Shmelyov, Alexander Kadeykin

Nikita Nesterov-Artem Sergeyev

Mikhail Naumenkov-Andrey Pedan

Nikita Zadorov-Albert Yarullin

Kirill Dyakov

Andrei Vasilevskiy-Andrei Filonenko

CZE:

Dmitri Jaskin-Radek Faksa-Tomas Hyka

Jakub Sramek-Tomas Hertl-Martin Frk

Michal Svihalek-Lukas Sedlak-Dominik Volek

Patrik Machac-Lukas Kralik-Matej Stransky

Matej Beran, Dominik Kubalik

David Musil-Marek Hrbas

Richard Nedomiel-Michal Gutwald

Michal Plutnar-Tomas Pavelka

Jan Kostalek

Matej Machovsky-David Honzik

SVK:

Marek Tvrdon-Marko Dano-Patrik Koys

Martin Reway-David Griger-Richard Mraz

Vladimir Dolnik-Dominik Rehak-Milan Kolena

Matej Hindos-Juraj Bezuch-Filip Vasko

Michal Hlinka

Martin Gernat-Peter Ceresnak

Tomas Nechala-Robert Mikeska

Adrian Sloboda-Patrik Luza

Tomas Rusina

Patrik Rybar-Patrik Romancik-Richard Sabol

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SWE:

Filip Forsberg-Mika Zibanejad-Sebastian Collberg

Emil Molin-William Karlsson-Pontus Aberg

Jeremy Boyce Rotevall-Victor Rask-Rickard Rakell

Emil Lundberg-David Karlsson-Max Gortz

Joachim Nermark

Jonas Brodin-Oscar Klefbom

Ludvig Bystrom-Mikael Wikstrand

Tom Nilsson-Rasmus Bengtsson

Christian Djoos

Oscar Dansk-Niklas Lundstrom-Johan Mattsson

Surprised you left out Hampus Lindholm from the Swedish D? I also wouldn't be surprised to see Robert Hagg in their bottom 6.

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Crzydrvr.. a little request...

In those lineups you posted up there, could you go thru and highlight the flames property in red? I think it could be neat to see if there are couple of players you project to be there...

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Surprised you left out Hampus Lindholm from the Swedish D? I also wouldn't be surprised to see Robert Hagg in their bottom 6.

With all the hype coming out of Anaheim, I'm assuming Lindholm will be there for the year and will not be made available to the team. Obviously if he goes back to Sweden he's all but a lock for a top 4 role, probably knocking off Djoos from the roster.

Crzydrvr.. a little request...

In those lineups you posted up there, could you go thru and highlight the flames property in red? I think it could be neat to see if there are couple of players you project to be there...

No problem. :)

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Green the nucks. :rolleyes:

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Really think Sieloff will make the top6 on USA.. He's the grittiest Dman there...

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Green the nucks. :rolleyes:

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Really think Sieloff will make the top6 on USA.. He's the grittiest Dman there...

Our prospect pool is really getting underrated IMO. Even in my predicted rosters (which contain its fair share of bias) the Flames have 5 players, tied with Edmonton for most among Canadian teams.

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Our prospect pool is really getting underrated IMO. Even in my predicted rosters (which contain its fair share of bias) the Flames have 5 players, tied with Edmonton for most among Canadian teams.

Watching the Canada - Russia games, I really thought that Huberdeau and Scheifele carried the Candaian forwrads and after that, it got a bit thin down the middle. Huberdeau seems like a lock for the NHL (assuming it's on) and I think Scheifele will stick with the Jets.

If so, I think Jankowski has the opportunity get a serious look in December, if he gets off to a good start in Providence. That would be awesome, needless to say.

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Watching the Canada - Russia games, I really thought that Huberdeau and Scheifele carried the Candaian forwrads and after that, it got a bit thin down the middle. Huberdeau seems like a lock for the NHL (assuming it's on) and I think Scheifele will stick with the Jets.

If so, I think Jankowski has the opportunity get a serious look in December, if he gets off to a good start in Providence. That would be awesome, needless to say.

I agree, a hot start is going to put Jankowski on the radar. I actually thought even at last year's World Juniors the center depth was a bit thin, certainly they lacked the big time center they've had for the last several World Juniors. It's also not out of the question that Schiefelle could make the Jets.

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Getting my WJC rosters together as the day of the tournament draws ever near....not including NHL players since I'm half-hoping that they won't be getting a chance to play. If you get my drift. However, it does include guys who are playing in juniors or the AHL, but only the ones who I'd think would spend their year outside the NHL and/or be available for the WJCs.

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Jonathan Huberdeau-Ryan Strome-Ty Rattie

Philip Danault-Mark Scheifele-Nathan MacKinnon

Phil Di Giuseppe-Boone Jenner-Colton Sissons

Josh Leivo-Sean Monahan-Tom Wilson

Michael St. Croix, Adam Lowry

Scott Harrington-Morgan Rielly

Griffin Reinhart-Ryan Murphy

Ryan Pulock-Xavier Ouellet

Cody Ceci

Malcolm Subban-Laurent Broisoit

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John Gaudreau-Alex Galchenyuk-Stefan Noesen

Nicolas Kerdiles-J.T. Miller-Henrik Samuelsson

Mario Lucia-Vince Trocheck-Steven Fogarty

Stefan Matteau-Sean Kuraly-Tyler Biggs

Travis Boyd

Jacob Trouba-Jake McCabe

Brady Skjei-Seth Jones

Patrick Sieloff-Mike Reilly

Andy Welinski

John Gibson-Matt Mahalak-Jon Gillies

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Filip Forsberg-Mika Zibanejad-Sebastian Collberg

Emil Molin-William Karlsson-Pontus Aberg

Jeremy Boyce Rotevall-Victor Rask-Rickard Rakell

David Karlsson-Oscar Sundqvist-Max Gortz

Joachim Nermark, Daniel Zaar

Oscar Klefbom-Mikael Wikstrand

Ludvig Bystrom-Rasmus Bengtsson

Tom Nilsson-Calle Andersson

Christian Djoos

Niklas Lundstrom-Oscar Dansk

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Miro Aaltonen-Aleksander Barkov-Henrik Haapala

Teuvo Teravainen-Markus Granlund-Joel Armia

Markus Hannikainen-Kalle Kossila-Miikka Salomaki

Niklas Tikkinen-Robert Leino-Toni Kallela

Teemu Henritius

Olli Maatta-Ville Pokka

Rasmus Ristolainen-Joonas Valkonen

Mikko Vainonen-Esa Lindell

Mikko Lehtonen, Petteri Lindbohm

Samu Perhonen-Joonas Korpisalo

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Anton Slepyshev-Mikhail Grigorenko-Nikita Kucherov

Nikolai Prokhorkin-Alexander Khokhlachev-Yaroslav Kosov

Alexander Delnov-Pavel Buchnevich-Maxim Shalunov

Daniil Zharkov-Vyacheslav Osnovin-Anton Zlobin

Vladislav Shalimov, Denis Kamaev

Nikita Nesterov-Andrey Pedan

Mikhail Naumenkov-Artem Sergeyev

Nikita Zadorov-Albert Yarullin

Kirill Dyakov

Andrei Vasilevskiy-Andrei Makarov

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Filip Forsberg-Mika Zibanejad-Sebastian Collberg

Emil Molin-William Karlsson-Pontus Aberg

Jeremy Boyce Rotevall-Victor Rask-Rickard Rakell

David Karlsson-Oscar Sundqvist-Max Gortz

Joachim Nermark, Daniel Zaar

Oscar Klefbom-Mikael Wikstrand

Ludvig Bystrom-Rasmus Bengtsson

Tom Nilsson-Calle Andersson

Christian Djoos

Niklas Lundstrom-Oscar Dansk

Very strong team. You don't see Elias Lindholm making the team? I could see them putting him on the wing even though he's a C. I doubt Emil Molin makes the team. Very inconsistent/one dimensional player.

I could even see Lindholm taking William Karlsson's spot. It's all speculation at this point... just thought I'd contribute a little to the conversation.

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Very strong team. You don't see Elias Lindholm making the team? I could see them putting him on the wing even though he's a C. I doubt Emil Molin makes the team. Very inconsistent/one dimensional player.

I could even see Lindholm taking William Karlsson's spot. It's all speculation at this point... just thought I'd contribute a little to the conversation.

I think, looking back on it, I'd probably swap out Molin for Lindholm, move Lindholm to center and shift Rask or Karlsson to the wing. It really just slipped my mind :lol:. I can't even use the excuse that they'd go with experience, because the Swedes took 3 underagers last tournament (although Aberg was taken out with an injury during pre-tourney exhibitions) and they're pretty good at going with the best available player regardless of age.

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I think, looking back on it, I'd probably swap out Molin for Lindholm, move Lindholm to center and shift Rask or Karlsson to the wing. It really just slipped my mind :lol:. I can't even use the excuse that they'd go with experience, because the Swedes took 3 underagers last tournament (although Aberg was taken out with an injury during pre-tourney exhibitions) and they're pretty good at going with the best available player regardless of age.

Something I wish Canada would do more of.

I think we will see MacKinnon, but not so sure about Drouin? Monahan? etc...

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Something I wish Canada would do more of.

I think we will see MacKinnon, but not so sure about Drouin? Monahan? etc...

Drouin probably won't even get a fair shot, regardless of what everyone thinks, and that IMO is probably a smarter thing to do; Drouin is not ready just yet. Monahan IMO has a better shot than MacKinnon of cracking the U20 roster, because he's a third year player who plays the type of game that TC brass loves on their roster; real solid solid two-way player and has some offensive skills to boot. Very versatile guy in that he can play anywhere in the lineup, 1st line scorer all the way to 4th line shutdown guy, whereas MacKinnon is probably more of a pure scorer in a short tournament like this.

Monahan should be a lock, Pulock and Mac should get some long looks, and Drouin and Shinkaruk might get a swing as well. But that's probably all the draft-eligible skaters who'd get a shake. Unless TC really decides to swing the other way, but I personally don't see Prendergast being able to do that (he IS a former Oilers scout after all :P).

Canada is blessed with a lot of depth and talent, so we don't necessarily HAVE to go for the uber 18 year old like a Sweden or a Finland might. But I agree with the sentiment that TC needs at least 1 impact gamebreaker. Depth is great, but you need that guy who can take a game over during key phases of the game. And Canada has not had a guy like that since Eberle. I don't see Huberdeau or Scheifele or Strome as the kind of players that can necessarily dominate in the WJCs so I think MacKinnon NEEDS to be on that team if Canada wants to redeem itself.

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Nuge will be Canada's #1 centre and Yakupov Russia's 1st right winger if lockout continues.

Thanks for enlightening us all with the obvious.

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Crzydrvr: Do you see Artturi Lehkonen making the Finnish team? I know he's very young, but I can't see him being left off with his dominant play in the SM-liiga.

This is definitely a strong year for Finnish prospects in the 1st round.

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Do you see Artturi Lehkonen making the Finnish team? I know he's very young, but I can't see him being left off with his dominant play in the SM-liiga.

This is definitely a strong year for Finnish prospects in the 1st round.

I'd like to use a recent example in Teuvo Teravainen. TT didn't get a shot and he was the best Finnish 17 year old in the league last season. And with a very solid Finnish group of forwards Lehkonen may not get a fair crack at a spot. He's the kind of player who's top 2/3 line or bust, and is really geared towards an offensive role, so if he can't beat out the likes of Henrik Happala and Miro Aaltonen for a spot, he's probably not going to make it onto the team unless he's the 13th man up front. And with his current size it may be asking too much to expect a kid who barely weighed 160 pounds soaking wet at the start of the season making the roster of a team heading to a competition with some players with the size and physicality of NHLers(*coughcough*Hamilton*cough*).

I do think this may be the best year for Finnish prospects ever as far as high end talent goes. Barkov is the best Finnish skater eligible for the draft since Olli Jokinen (and even Jokinen might not have been as good in his draft year as Barkov), Rasmus Ristolainen is right up there with Olli Maatta as the best Finnish defender prospects since Joni Pitkanen, and then you have Lehkonen, Husso, Ikonen, etc. From where Finland was just a few years ago to where they are now is really a massive turnaround. For a period between 2005 and 2008, it really was just a wasteland of top-end prospects beyond goalies.

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Good points Crvydrvr.

Big blows for team Sweden.... No Zibanejad, Klefbom, or Brodin. Apparently Ottawa won't let Zib leave the AHL, and Brodin & Klef are both injured.

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wow this team looks stacked. was was suprised on how well the undrafted players played. Jonathan Drouin, and Nathan MacKinnon looked sharp as hell.

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