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Blake Comeau

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I am not polling this, so don't ask.

Blake Comeau's name comes up in every thread on this board.

Why not a Blake Comeau thread?

What are your thoughts? No "why is he an NHLer?" allowed, just what and where are his game and it's strengths and faults?

For me, works hard and skates hard, flip side, zero puck skill at this level.

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I am not polling this, so don't ask.

Blake Comeau's name comes up in every thread on this board.

Why not a Blake Comeau thread?

What are your thoughts? No "why is he an NHLer?" allowed, just what and where are his game and it's strengths and faults?

For me, works hard and skates hard, flip side, zero puck skill at this level.

I don't think you need a thread - I think you have it covered right there

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I don't think you need a thread - I think you have it covered right there

It's not what I need, do we need one? lol

Shoulda realized I was in GDT, not Flames talk, mods please!

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Simply put if a player at the nhl level cannot control the puck very well he had better be able to lay a great hit consistently. Or have a specialist skill (something like smyth/holmstrom's net play, stajans faceoffs, or Stoll's shot). That being said comeaus stint at center appears to be a tryout to see if he can at least be a good face off guy. If he fails I expect he'll be waived and sent down. We'll continue to call up and send down talent from the farm until nearly all our ahl'rs have been evaluated. Sounds pretty exciting :)

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Comeau needs to get off the 3rd line center spot ASAP. I cannot stand him anymore. He's totally killing Hudler's and Baertschi's creativity. Once he gets the puck he kills EVERY play in the offensive zone, wether by missing his shot or losing the puck, fumbling it, or he just circles around and end up doing nothing. I would be okay in a 4th line role killing penalties, but right now, I just don't understand why we have Cervenka playing 2:00 and Comeau getting his minutes. I thought Cervenka's assist in the 1st would have gotten him back in a reasonable spot right away, instead he was benched and we had a non-factor player in the top 9. I'm hard on him, but really Baer and Hudler had some great passing going on out there and Comeau just seemed to be ruining every play. Hudler has had trouble getting in the score sheet since he's been paired with him.. no coincidence.

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Comeau needs to get off the 3rd line center spot ASAP. I cannot stand him anymore. He's totally killing Hudler's and Baertschi's creativity. Once he gets the puck he kills EVERY play in the offensive zone, wether by missing his shot or losing the puck, fumbling it, or he just circles around and end up doing nothing. I would be okay in a 4th line role killing penalties, but right now, I just don't understand why we have Cervenka playing 2:00 and Comeau getting his minutes. I thought Cervenka's assist in the 1st would have gotten him back in a reasonable spot right away, instead he was benched and we had a non-factor player in the top 9. I'm hard on him, but really Baer and Hudler had some great passing going on out there and Comeau just seemed to be ruining every play. Hudler has had trouble getting in the score sheet since he's been paired with him.. no coincidence.

No kidding... agree with everything you've said. Someone please explain to me why our third line is not baer - cervenka - hudler?

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In yesterday's game against the Coyotes, Comeau had a point blank opportunity from the slot and completely missed the net by 2 feet. He even had a good long steamboat and a half to pick his spot, aim, and then fire. And he still missed.

I think that play was, in so many ways, a synopsis of his career with the Flames. He has worked hard and earned the opportunity but when the opportunity presented itself, he didn't cash in. It's not that the Flames never gave him a fair shot. He just didn't deliver. He came back for one more season on a "let's see" contract. I think we all see clearly now that there's not a whole lot there. He's worth league minimum on a two-way contract.

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I went to NHL.com to get stats as ammo to use against Comeau, but I was very surprised by what I found.

He is second on the team in hits with 31 through 17 games. I didn't think he had been all that physical to this point, it always seems like he does a lot of fly by's but maybe I am imagining things.

I also wanted to see the amount of giveaways he had as I was convinced he must lead the team or at least the forwards in giveaways as it seems the is only on his stick for a split second before the other team is heading in the other direction with the puck.

It turns out he only has 5 giveaways through 17 games which is not that much (I would have guessed closer to 5 a game).

Either way I agree with most that he is fine in a 4th line/PK role, but that is it. I would even rather see Begin or Jackman get a chance on the 3rd line over Comeau. Jackman would at least be able to use his size to create space for Hudler and Baertschi.

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I think we all see clearly now that there's not a whole lot there. He's worth league minimum on a two-way contract.

I agree with this. He'd be a pretty good guy to have on that type of contract, because he's a good stopgap type player. You can bring him up (e.g., in case of injury) and you know he'll work really hard and not be much of a liability.

But as a long term part of our plan, no thanks. Zero offensive skill. Doesn't fight or bring a ton of physicality. Isn't much of a pest. Also one of our worst +/- players, for what it's worth. No idea why he's playing instead of certain other guys in the AHL or on the 4th line, who at least visibly contribute something.

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I just don't see the fit for comeau. In my opinion he doesn't really bring any tangible talents that could not be filled equally (or better) by someone else on the roster, or by a call up. I am still left scratching my head as to why blair jones got sent down instead of comeau, and of why he has been put on the third line over cervenka. Just doesn't make sense to me.

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I just don't see the fit for comeau. In my opinion he doesn't really bring any tangible talents that could not be filled equally (or better) by someone else on the roster, or by a call up. I am still left scratching my head as to why blair jones got sent down instead of comeau, and of why he has been put on the third line over cervenka. Just doesn't make sense to me.

I don't agree - he brings speed, tenacity and some physicality. He is a good 4th liner. And a good penalty killer.

but he SHOULD NOT be on the 3rd line - especially at C. And especially when there are healthy top 9 guys like Cervenka and Baertschi.

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I don't agree - he brings speed, tenacity and some physicality. He is a good 4th liner. And a good penalty killer.

but he SHOULD NOT be on the 3rd line - especially at C. And especially when there are healthy top 9 guys like Cervenka and Baertschi.

I guess the good thing is that Hartley has not been afraid to change the line mid-game.

What I don't like to see is a vet playing terribly, but still getting top-line minutes, or taking someone else's minutes that is playing fine.

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I don't agree - he brings speed, tenacity and some physicality. He is a good 4th liner. And a good penalty killer.

but he SHOULD NOT be on the 3rd line - especially at C. And especially when there are healthy top 9 guys like Cervenka and Baertschi.

He brings speed and some physicality, maybe. But he also kills any play that lands on his stick, seems to be a turnover machine, and just doesn't ever seem to have an impact. His role is that of a 4th liner, which is why i don't understand why he is playing on the 3rd line (as you said). My point, is that we have an overflow of 4th liners in begin, jackman, comeau, jones, aliu. And to be honest, I would much rather have Jones over comeau any day of the week. Therein lies my point in how i don't understand why jones was sent down and comeau kept up.

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He brings speed and some physicality, maybe. But he also kills any play that lands on his stick, seems to be a turnover machine, and just doesn't ever seem to have an impact. His role is that of a 4th liner, which is why i don't understand why he is playing on the 3rd line (as you said). My point, is that we have an overflow of 4th liners in begin, jackman, comeau, jones, aliu. And to be honest, I would much rather have Jones over comeau any day of the week. Therein lies my point in how i don't understand why jones was sent down and comeau kept up.

and I agree 100% with this

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In yesterday's game against the Coyotes, Comeau had a point blank opportunity from the slot and completely missed the net by 2 feet. He even had a good long steamboat and a half to pick his spot, aim, and then fire. And he still missed.

You are not going to get a goal scorer out of Comeau he is a shut down defensive player so dont expect him to be popping in goals its not his role.

I dont think he will be resigned unless its really cheap

I think that play was, in so many ways, a synopsis of his career with the Flames. He has worked hard and earned the opportunity but when the opportunity presented itself, he didn't cash in. It's not that the Flames never gave him a fair shot. He just didn't deliver. He came back for one more season on a "let's see" contract. I think we all see clearly now that there's not a whole lot there. He's worth league minimum on a two-way contract.

In yesterday's game against the Coyotes, Comeau had a point blank opportunity from the slot and completely missed the net by 2 feet. He even had a good long steamboat and a half to pick his spot, aim, and then fire. And he still missed.

You are not going to get a goal scorer out of Comeau he is a shut down defensive player so dont expect him to be popping in goals its not his role.

I dont think he will be resigned unless its really cheap

I think that play was, in so many ways, a synopsis of his career with the Flames. He has worked hard and earned the opportunity but when the opportunity presented itself, he didn't cash in. It's not that the Flames never gave him a fair shot. He just didn't deliver. He came back for one more season on a "let's see" contract. I think we all see clearly now that there's not a whole lot there. He's worth league minimum on a two-way contract.

Even nhl.com thinks Comeau should be on the Islanders... :lol:http://islanders.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8471260

Yeah no kidding but hes not which makes it even funnier

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I just don't see the fit for comeau. In my opinion he doesn't really bring any tangible talents that could not be filled equally (or better) by someone else on the roster, or by a call up. I am still left scratching my head as to why blair jones got sent down instead of comeau, and of why he has been put on the third line over cervenka. Just doesn't make sense to me.

It makes perfect sense to me its just the coach mixing up the lines trying to form some chemistry

Im sure Blair Jones will be called up.

Could be that they (the flames) are hoping he gets hot and are then able to trade him and if he is sent down, waved or benched less likelyhood for a trade to be made

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This guy is the biggest mystery on the team if you ask me, and it goes back to all of last year too. He is a really good skater and he's not afraid to lay on the body but OMG he couldn't hit the broadside of a barndoor, or as my Dad used to say "He couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a scoop shovel ".He has no confidence at all with the puck in scoring range...it either goes straight at the middle of the goalie, or 2 feet wide or high. Is sitting him up in the press box magically going to give him the sniper skills of a Mike Bossy......nah. Time to send him to Abbotsford or waive him and sayanara...2 points in 18 games...CMON! 

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Yes, I to agree with all the points everyone has made about Comeau, but would also like to add:

 

I find him to be a an arrogant prick in interviews, and he often shows ignorance of the fact that he sucks!

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I think if we give Comeau the job of getting the puck, skating in from the blue line and wiring that shot on net we saw last night, and leave him doing that the rest of the season not attempting little passes or splitting the D I think we might have something.  :P (barring if nobody wants to trade for him of course)

 

Thought that was a rocket of a shot and good effort last night.

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He always tries hard, he's just not a very good player. Certainly not an NHL forward. If you put enough pucks at the net, eventually one will go in and he did so last night. His shooting percentage is the 2nd worst on the team. Took him 21 shots to get a goal.

 

Not good enough scorer to play top 9. Not a good enough energy player to play energy line. He's not an NHL player.

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He always tries hard, he's just not a very good player. Certainly not an NHL forward. If you put enough pucks at the net, eventually one will go in and he did so last night. His shooting percentage is the 2nd worst on the team. Took him 21 shots to get a goal.

 

Not good enough scorer to play top 9. Not a good enough energy player to play energy line. He's not an NHL player.

 

He is an NHL player.  He plays in the NHL ;)

 

I agree, he's not really NHL caliber material.  I'd prefer Horak over Comeau.  I really don't understand Hartley's love affair with this guy.

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He is an NHL player.  He plays in the NHL ;)

 

I agree, he's not really NHL caliber material.  I'd prefer Horak over Comeau.  I really don't understand Hartley's love affair with this guy.

 

Well i mean who wouldn't... Horak has 1 goal and 1 assist (2 points) in 6 games this season (0.33 ppg) whereas comeau has 1 goal and 2 assists in 20 games this season (0.15 ppg). It was a timely goal last night, and I thought he was playing okay for most of the night... I just hate how people are going to defend him over it now.

 

I don't think he should be on this team, I don't think he is good enough. IF he has to be on the team, then it should be in a fourth line/PK roll. Thats it. Nothing more. And even then i would much prefer byron, horak, or jones over him.

 

There is NO WAY that he should be playing in our top 6/9 like he was last night and earlier this season. There is NO WAY that he should be stealing ice time from baer. I've liked Hartley for the most part on what he has done, but I think that he is severely mishandling our top prospect in years, and I do not understand why he is so high on comeau, but so harsh on cervenka and baer. Seriously...

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Hartley's love affair with Comeau is costing Baertschi some precious playing time. I agree that when Backlund comes back, Baertschi should be re-assigned to Abbotsford. He is already rotting in the 8-11 minutes range without backlund in the line-up, if Backlund gets in he logically takes COmeau's spot in the top 9 while Cammy moves back to the wing. Baertschi has no future with us (this year) when the coach cannot even give him a full game with some serious playing time. He just starts the game on a decent line and in mid-2nd period Comeau replaces him and he is benched the rest of the time. We are killing his development to give a guy like Comeau playing time, which makes no sense in my mind.

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Hartley's love affair with Comeau is costing Baertschi some precious playing time. I agree that when Backlund comes back, Baertschi should be re-assigned to Abbotsford. He is already rotting in the 8-11 minutes range without backlund in the line-up, if Backlund gets in he logically takes COmeau's spot in the top 9 while Cammy moves back to the wing. Baertschi has no future with us (this year) when the coach cannot even give him a full game with some serious playing time. He just starts the game on a decent line and in mid-2nd period Comeau replaces him and he is benched the rest of the time. We are killing his development to give a guy like Comeau playing time, which makes no sense in my mind.

 

Completely agree. And the most mind boggling part, is that he has looked good in the time he has gotten. Shouldn't this result in MORE playing time, and not less? I couldn't believe that Hartley benched sven for the ENTIRE third period last night... as if he thought he would be a defensive liability... Did he not see his defensive play against the Canucks? He was excellent. I just don't get it... a prospect is not going to develop if not given decent playing time. Does someone have Hartleys number? I'd really like to give him a call...

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